Progressives (Liberals)

remember trump's claim coronavirus was just a democratic hoax, remember hi it was one person, then just fifteen cases and it would be zero in a week, remember anyone that wants a test can get one, remember all his false claims, remember how the economy you're boasting about is tanking, remember how new unemployment claims are in the millions. The buck stops on the president's desk, unless it's trump's desk, then it's always someone else's fault, or so he says. He was too little too late, treasonously sucking up to foreign despots. He's corrupt to the core, and by November it's gonna be crystal clear.

So you're back home now? Good, now you can do the laundry, scrub the kitchen floor.


Tell your 12 pals to scram!

No.

25% did not vote for Clinton, but only 12% voted for Trump.


https://twitter.com/b_schaffner/status/900375362604892160/photo/1

Trump also promoted the idea that it would just "go away".

If you knew anything at all, you would know he never said that.

No, I don't remember that. Neither does anyone else in the world, deluded cheese-eaters excepted.

Your own graph shows that about 25% of Sanders supporters did not vote for Clinton in 2016. And they won't vote for Biden, either.

Actually, the question is moot. Burnie supporters will vote for Burnie in 2020, as soon as he announces his third party candidacy.

Kind of correct, layman, since he only seems to have referred to the Democrats when he said "this is their new hoax".

Not the virus itself, Walt. He was talking about their extreme rejection of every action he took.

Almost all of them claimed, for example that he should never have closed travel from China. He only did it because he was a racist and because he wanted to generate unwarranted fear, according to them.

You're one kooky dude.

- I said that 10-12% of Bernie voters voted for Trump.
- You said that I was wrong and that 25% of Bernie voters voted for Trump.
- I post a graph stating that I was correct
- You spit out some word vomit....

Thanks for taking part in this discussion.

Plump's bullsh*t with regard to the novel corona virus:

Jan. 22: On whether he was worried about a pandemic: “No, we’re not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China.”

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.”

Feb. 2: “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. … We can’t have thousands of people coming in who may have this problem, the coronavirus. So we’re gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.”

Feb. 7: “Nothing is easy, but [Chinese President Xi Jinping] … will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”

Feb. 10: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”

Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”

Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”

Feb. 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.”

Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. We did something very fortunate: we closed up to certain areas of the world very, very early — far earlier than we were supposed to. I took a lot of heat for doing it. It turned out to be the right move, and we only have 15 people and they are getting better, and hopefully they’re all better. There’s one who is quite sick, but maybe he’s gonna be fine. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate."

Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Feb. 29: “We’re the number one travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.”

March 4: “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”

March 5: “With approximately 100,000 CoronaVirus cases worldwide, and 3,280 deaths, the United States, because of quick action on closing our borders, has, as of now, only 129 cases (40 Americans brought in) and 11 deaths.”

March 6: “We did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said: ‘Calm. You have to be calm. It’ll go away.' ”

March 7: “It came out of China, and we heard about it. And made a good move: We closed it down; we stopped it. Otherwise — the head of CDC said last night that you would have thousands of more problems if we didn’t shut it down very early. That was a very early shutdown, which is something we got right."

March 9: “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant. Surgeon General, ‘The risk is low to the average American.’ ”

March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

March 10: “As you know, it’s about 600 cases, it’s about 26 deaths, within our country. And had we not acted quickly, that number would have been substantially more.”

March 10: “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”

March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”

March 14: “We’re using the full power of the federal government to defeat the virus, and that’s what we’ve been doing.” Also retweeted supporter Candace Owens, who cited “good news” on the coronavirus, including that “Italy is hit hard, experts say, because they have the oldest population in Europe (average age of those that have died is 81).”

March 15: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

March 16: “If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for any place in the world. … I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus.”

March 17: “We’re going to win. And I think we’re going to win faster than people think — I hope.”

March 23: “America will again and soon be open for business. … Parts of our country are very lightly affected.”

March 24: “You’re going to lose a number of people to the flu. But you’re going to lose more people by putting a country into a massive recession or depression.”

March 25: “There are large sections of our country — probably can go back to work much sooner than other sections. … It’s hard not to be happy with the job we’re doing, that I can tell you."

March 26: “They have to go back to work; our country has to go back. Our country is based on that, and I think it’s going to happen pretty quickly.”

“I have a feeling that a lot of numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be. I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators.”

March 29: “So you’re talking about [worst-case scenarios of] 2.2 million deaths, 2.2 million people from this. And so if we could hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000 — it’s a horrible number, maybe even less — but to 100,000. So we have between 100 and 200,000, and we altogether have done a very good job."

March 30: “New York is really in trouble, but I think it’s going to end up being fine. We’re loading it up, we’re stocking it up. … And then by a little short of June, maybe June 1, we think the — you know, it’s a terrible thing to say, but — we think the deaths will be at a very low number. It’ll be brought down to a very low number from right now, from where it’s getting to reach its peak.”

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What a moron--what a lying sack of hist. What a lying, moronic, incopetent and narcissistic clown.

What Trump said to Acosta goes for you too.

I think I can clear up all the dust-ups here on the lovely progressive thread.

1. Trump has been an imbecile regarding this virus.
2. Biden cannot beat Trump because of the cheating and other related foul play--once again-- of the DNC.

Carry on.

It's certainly not his fault that he was busy defending himself from frivolous impeachment charges throughout the first month of the pandemic.

3. Bernie cannot beat Trump because voters don't buy into his crap and he can't even beat Joe Biden.

We should really be discussing #3 on this progressive thread.

Why is Bernie such a horrible candidate?

You don't hear so good, do ya? Trump never said, or implied, that we would have only 15 cases and that it would be zero in a week.

Quite the opposite. In that very same press conference he said, for example that: "We — we’re ready to adapt and we’re ready to do whatever we have to as the disease spreads... But we’re very, very ready for this, for anything — whether it’s going to be a breakout of larger proportions or whether or not we’re — you know, we’re at that very low level, and we want to keep it that way."

When talking about the (then known) 15 cases, he was simply making the factual point that most Americans are at very low risk of death. It's not something like ebola, where you're dead if you get it. Very appropriate for him to make that point and tone done the "panic."

"Of the 15 people — the “original 15,” as I call them — 8 of them have returned to their homes, to stay in their homes until fully recovered. One is in the hospital and five have fully recovered. And one is, we think, in pretty good shape and it’s in between hospital and going home.

So we have a total of — but we have a total of 15 people, and they’re in a process of recovering, with some already having fully recovered."

You and your ilk, who misrepresent everything he says, are what led him to call the false cheese-eater narrative a "hoax."

Bernie is a fantastic candidate. He seems to have underestimated the reality of fighting off the billionaires, the pharmaceutical companies, Wall Street, Big Oil, the crooked politicians they pay to do their bidding, and the crooked media who bleats the same bullshit to the stupids 24/7 until they believe it.

Interestingly, even though the DNC was able to cheat their way through another halflife of primaries, the world is pushing back a bit.

This virus is an ENORMOUS instructive tutorial on why M4A is necessary, how the US operates on socialism for the wealthy and rugged individualism for the poor, and myriad other juicy items that would be solved by the policies of Bernie ******* Sanders.

I think you'll see people waking up to reality and voting for Bernie.

Next question?

I have noticed how countries who have universal healthcare have been completely spared of the COVID-19 outbreak. Italy. Spain. The UK ... all spared. /s

There are a lot of good arguments FOR Universal Healthcare .... I don't see how the spread of this virus is one of them.

Bernie Sanders would NOT have spared the USA from the virus outbreak.

Why is NYC hit so hard? Because that's the city that damn near every person coming from a foreign land (Italy, Spain, etc.) flies into, that's why:



https://www.bts.dot.gov/newsroom/2018-traffic-data-us-airlines-and-foreign-airlines-us-flights

Italy, one of the hardest hit (and having the most inadequate medical resources) has a nationalized health care system.

Go figure, eh?