Lash
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:17 am
@MontereyJack,
Yes it will.
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layman
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:19 am
@layman,
Noam Chomsky, originally delivered on April 13, 1970 in Hanoi while he was visiting North Vietnam... Broadcast by Radio Hanoi on April 14

Chomsky wrote:
This is my first visit to Vietnam. Nevertheless, since the moment when we arrived at the airport at Hanoi, I've had a remarkable and very satisfying feeling of being entirely at home...

The people of Vietnam will win, they must win, because your cause is the cause of humanity as it moves forward toward liberty and justice, toward the socialist society in which free, creative men control their own destiny.

We are deeply grateful to you that you permit us to be part of your brave and historical struggle....many Americans who wish you success and who detest with all of their being the hateful activities of the American government.



Typical traitorous America-hating Lefty, eh?
Lash
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:21 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

You're a legend in your own mind.

Nope, but I'm running around in yours constantly. Can't you get a girlfriend or something?
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snood
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:23 am
@Setanta,
Ain’t it priceless? If people don’t just ignore her; if they refute her bullshit half as regularly as she posts it, she accuses them of stalking her.

She’s not really delusional enough to believe it, just daffy enough to say it.


layman
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:23 am
@layman,
Still the greatest man who ever lived to many commie-ass "progressives;"

Quote:
Freighted with footnotes and scholarly apparatus, Chomsky's volumes express an impassioned hatred of America's institutions and national identity. Often reaching paranoid extremes, his animus would serve to stigmatize anyone of less imposing credentials as a political crank.”

“No longer published in The New York Review of Books and other prestigious liberal magazines that once clamored for his essays, Chomsky has become the Dr. Demento of American political commentary. But within the Left itself, Chomsky's reputation has prospered.”
Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:25 am
@blatham,
I don't believe he contributed anything to the political discourse, including comments on the influence of media, that was not said by others, and usually said better.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:27 am
@snood,
To my mind, the significant thing is that she constantly attacks progressives/liberals and the Democratic party. That's her real mission here.
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layman
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:35 am
@layman,
Chomsky, the terrorist:

Chomsky wrote:
What about the terror practiced by the National Liberation Front? Was this a legitimate political act?

If we are going to take a moral position on this, we have to ask both what the consequences were of using terror and not using terror.

I don’t accept the view that we can just condemn the NLF terror, period, because it was so horrible. There are real arguments also in favor of the Viet Cong terror, arguments that can't be lightly dismissed.

It was necessary to break the bonds of passivity that made them totally incapable of political action. And if violence does move the peasantry to the point where it can overcome bondage, then I think there's a pretty strong case for it.

If it were true that the consequences of not using terror would be that the peasantry in Vietnam would continue to live in the state of the peasantry of the Philippines, then I think the use of terror would be justified


Commie hero, sho nuff.

A principle tenet of the commies has always been that the end (a glorious heaven on earth where commies can kill everybody they don't like) justifies any means.
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Lash
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 07:58 am
Honors awarded to Noam Chomsky, Awards, Achievements

Guggenheim Fellowship (1971)
Member of the National Academy of Sciences (1972)
APA Award for Distinguished Scientific Contributions to Psychology (1984)
Orwell Award (1987, 1989)
Kyoto Prize in Basic Sciences (1988)
Helmholtz Medal (1996)
Benjamin Franklin Medal in Computer and Cognitive Science (1999)
Sydney Peace Prize (2011)

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I think the weight of the egomania required to consider oneself superior to Mr Chomsky must be debilitating.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biography.com/.amp/scholar/noam-chomsky
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A primer on the Chomster:

Who Is Noam Chomsky?
Noam Chomsky was an intellectual prodigy who went on to earn a PhD in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania. Since 1955, he has been a professor at MIT and has produced groundbreaking, controversial theories on human linguistic capacity. Chomsky is widely published, both on topics in his field and on issues of dissent and U.S. foreign policy.

Early Life and Education
Noam Chomsky was a brilliant child, and his curiosities and intellect were kindled greatly by his early experiences. Born in Philadelphia on December 7, 1928, Chomsky felt the weight of America's Great Depression. He was raised with a younger brother, David, and although his own family was middle class, he witnessed injustices all around him. One of his earliest memories consisted of watching security officers beat women strikers outside of a textile plant.
His mother, Elsie, had been active in the radical politics of the 1930s. His father, William, a Russian Jewish immigrant like his mother, was a respected professor of Hebrew at Gratz College, an institution for teacher’s training. At the age of 10, while attending a progressive school that emphasized student self-actualization, Chomsky wrote an editorial on the rise of fascism in Europe after the Spanish Civil War for his school newspaper. Rather amazingly, his story was substantially researched enough to be the basis for a later essay he would present at New York University.

By the age of 13, Chomsky was traveling from Philadelphia to New York, spending much of his time listening to the disparate perspectives hashed out among adults over cigarettes and magazines at his uncle’s newsstand at the back of a 72nd Street subway exit. Chomsky greatly admired his uncle, a man of little formal education, but someone who was wildly smart about the world around him. Chomsky’s current political views spring from this type of lived-experience stance, positing that all people can understand politics and economics and make their own decisions, and that authority ought to be tested before being deemed legitimate and worthy of power.

The Scholar
Just as World War II was coming to a close, Chomsky began his studies at the University of Pennsylvania. He found little use for his classes until he met Zellig S. Harris, an American scholar touted for discovering structural linguistics (breaking language down into distinct parts or levels). Chomsky was moved by what he felt language could reveal about society. Harris was moved by Chomsky’s great potential and did much to advance the young man’s undergraduate studies, with Chomsky receiving his B.A. and M.A in nontraditional modes of study.

Harris introduced Chomsky to Harvard mathematician Nathan Fine and philosophers Nelson Goodman and W. V. Quine. Although an industrious student of Goodman's, Chomsky drastically disagreed with his approach. Goodman believed the human mind was a blank slate, whereas Chomsky believed the basic concepts of language were innate in every human’s mind and then only influenced by one’s syntactical environment. His 1951 master’s thesis was titled "The Morphophonemics of Modern Hebrew."
In 1949, Chomsky married educational specialist Carol Schatz, a woman he had known since childhood. The relationship lasted for 59 years until she died from cancer in 2008. They had three children together. For a short time, between Chomsky’s master's and doctoral studies, the couple lived on a kibbutz in Israel. When they returned, Chomsky continued at the University of Pennsylvania and executed some of his research and writing at Harvard University. His dissertation eventually explored several ideas that he would soon lay out in one of his best-known books on linguistics, Syntactic Structures (1957).

Linguistic Revolutions
In 1955, the professorial staff at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) invited Chomsky to join their ranks. Now a professor emeritus, he worked in the school's Department of Linguistics & Philosophy for half a century before retiring from active teaching in 2005. He has also been a visiting professor or lectured at a range of other universities, including Columbia, UCLA, Princeton and Cambridge, and holds honorary degrees from countless others throughout the world.

During his career as a professor, Chomsky introduced transformational grammar to the linguistics field. His theory asserts that languages are innate and that the differences we see are only due to parameters developed over time in our brains, helping to explain why children are able to learn different languages more easily than adults. One of his most famous contributions to linguistics is what his contemporaries have called the Chomsky Hierarchy, a division of grammar into groups, moving up or down in their expressive abilities. These ideas have had huge ramifications in fields such as modern psychology and philosophy, both answering and raising questions about human nature and how we process information.

Chomsky’s writings on linguistics include Current Issues in Linguistic Theory (1964), Aspects of the Theory of Syntax (1965), The Sound Pattern of English (with Morris Halle, 1968), Language and Mind (1972), Studies on Semantics in Generative Grammar (1972), and Knowledge of Language (1986).
Politics and Controversies

But Chomsky’s ideas have never been relegated to language alone. Weaving between the world of academia and popular culture, Chomsky has also gained a reputation for his often radical political views, which he describes as "libertarian socialist," some of which have been seen as controversial and highly open to debate.

In 1967, The New York Review of Books published his essay "The Responsibility of Intellectuals." In light of the Vietnam War, which Chomsky adamantly opposed, he addressed what he saw as a disgracefully resigned intellectual community, of which he was an embarrassed member, with the hope of igniting his peers into deeper thought and action.

In a 1977 article Chomsky co-authored with Edward S. Herman in The Nation, he questioned the credibility of the reporting of atrocities under the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia and suggested some reports were propaganda to "place the role of the United States in a more favorable light." Decades later, Chomsky acknowledged in the 1993 documentary Manufacturing Consent “the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot, 1975 through 1978. . . ."

In 1979, Chomsky signed a petition in support of the free-speech rights of Robert Faurisson, a French lecturer who denied the existence of the gas chambers used in Nazi concentration camps. As a result, Chomsky found himself in the middle of a heated controversy, and in response, he asserted that his views are "diametrically opposed" to Faurisson's conclusions and his intent was to support Faurisson's civil liberties not his Holocaust denial. The incident haunted Chomsky for decades, however, and his reputation in France, in particular, was damaged for some time afterward.

Chomsky also sparked controversy with 9-11: Was There an Alternative?, his 2002 collection of essays which analyzes the September 11 attacks on the United States, the impact of U.S. foreign policy and media control. In the book, Chomsky denounces the “horrifying atrocities” of the attacks, but is critical of the United States’ use of power, calling it “a leading terrorist state.” The book became a best seller, denounced by conservative critics as a distortion of American history while praised by supporters as offering an honest analysis of events leading to 9-11 that weren't being reported by the mainstream media.

Among his many books addressing politics are American Power and the New Mandarins (1969), Peace in the Middle East? (1974), Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (with Edward S. Herman, 1988), Profit over People (1998), Rogue States (2000), Hegemony or Survival (2003), Gaza in Crisis (with Ilan Pappé, 2010), and most recently, On Western Terrorism: From Hiroshima to Drone Warfare (2013).

Current Affairs
Despite his often controversial viewpoints, Chomsky remains a highly respected and sought-after thinker who continues to author new books and contributes to a wide variety of journals and remains active on the lecture circuit. Over the course of his career, Chomsky has also amassed a wealth of academic and humanitarian awards, including the Distinguished Scientific Contribution Award from the American Psychological Association, the Kyoto Prize in Basic Sciences and the humanitarian Sydney Peace Prize.
layman
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:06 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Chomsky greatly admired his uncle, a man of little formal education,


Chomsky wrote:
Actually, I guess one of the people who was the biggest influence in my life was an uncle who had never gone past fourth grade. He had a background in crime, then left-wing politics, and all sorts of things. But he was a hunchback on welfare.


A damn no-schooled, no-working, commie criminal with hunched up kinda back, eh?

Like, whooda thunk, I ask ya?

I wonder how many of the influences were the biggest?
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:07 am
@Lash,
Quote:
I now have some Firing Line episodes to watch during the Great Hibernation.


Check out his interviews with Bernadette Devlin and Robert Scheer!
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:11 am
@layman,
Isn't Chomsky that guy who spouted all those lies about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Or am I confusing one leftist for another?
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layman
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:17 am
@Lash,
Quote:
In a 1977 article Chomsky co-authored with Edward S. Herman in The Nation, he questioned the credibility of the reporting of atrocities under the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia and suggested some reports were propaganda to "place the role of the United States in a more favorable light."


Anthony Lewis wrote:
]Cambodia was the worst horror. When the Khmer Rouge took over in 1975, many who had opposed the Vietnam War, I among them, thought anything would be better than the bombing inflicted on that peasant society by President Nixon and Henry Kissinger. We were wrong.”

A few Western intellectuals, notably Noam Chomsky, refused to believe what was going on in Cambodia. At first, at least, they put the reports of killing down to a conspiratorial effort by politicians and the press to destroy the Cambodian revolution.


That's when even his homeys knew he had done gone plumb nuts, eh?
hightor
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:23 am
@layman,
Haha!

Quote:
I am just posting this for the record. I don't plan to get involved here any further. By and large it's just a complete waste of time. There is no reason to try to "debate" people whose only idea of debate is to attempt to insult, ridicule, and demean anyone who disagrees with their often absurd contentions.


True to form!
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:29 am
@hightor,
I am glad that Layman decided to stay. He makes valuable contributions to the discussions here.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:31 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
That's when even his homeys knew he had done gone plumb nuts, eh?

Progressives will deny it, but they secretly revere Pol Pot to this day.
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Brand X
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:31 am
@layman,
Why are you so concerned about what Noam said but not all the stupid misguided **** Trump says?
layman
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:31 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Decades later, Chomsky acknowledged in the 1993 documentary Manufacturing Consent “the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot, 1975 through 1978. . . ."


Not really. As usual, Pol Pot wasn't to be blamed. Only the U.S.

Chomsky wrote:
: I mean the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot…. Well, it just happens that in that case history did set up a controlled experiment…. We were responsible for it. Not Pol Pot.


Quote:
" Chomsky once wrote me not one but two six-page single-spaced letters teeming with vituperation and insult in response to a mild and respectful criticism I had made of him in my 1979 article in The Nation. I must emphasize that in 1979 I still respected Noam Chomsky”

"These letters were, in fact, the first indication I had that Noam Chomsky was a nut case. Not just someone with whom I was beginning to have political disagreements, but a full-blown wack job."

“He is incapable of reasoned discussion. His reaction to even dispassionate criticism remains vituperation and denial. Consider only his recent non-responses to his long-time defender and friend Christopher Hitchens a man with whom I have profound disagreements but whom I eminently respect."

"In Noam Chomskys books one theme is constant: his portrayal of the state of Israel as the focus of evil in the Middle East, a malevolent outlaw whose only redeeming feature is the readiness of its own left-wing intelligentsia to expose its horrifying depravity."

"Every crime by Israels foes is portrayed as a regrettable but understandable lapse, a mere detour from the course of moderation which they pursue with such dedicated benevolence, in the midst of the infinite wickedness of the nation they are fighting to destroy."


That's our Chomsky, sho nuff. No wonder the lefties feel so much affinity for him, eh?

oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:34 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:
Why are you so concerned about what Noam said but not all the stupid misguided **** Trump says?

I don't pay much attention to statements from either one. I haven't paid much attention to any sort of politics beyond gun control lately.

But I do object to people making false accusations against the US. And if I'm remembering correctly, Chomsky made a bunch of false accusations about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
layman
 
  0  
Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2020 08:35 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Why are you so concerned about what Noam said but not all the stupid misguided **** Trump says?


It's purty simple, actually, Darlin. I don't like commies, or commieiesm.
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