layman
 
  0  
Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 08:31 pm
The perfect theme song for the campaign of hair-sniffin quid pro Joe, eh?

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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 03:39 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
I'm thinking about starting a new third party myself. My candidates will be Peter Fonda, Pres., and Maxine Waters, VP.
I think I'll call it the "Haters against Trump" party.
I'm not gunna do it for the politics of it all.
It's the billions in immediate cash campaign donations that I'm looking forward to, ya know?

I've often wondered how much money I could make by writing a book filled with legal-sounding gibberish that purports to be proof that Mr. Trump has committed horrible crimes. I bet all sorts of progressives would be willing to pay good money for such a book.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 03:45 am
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/democratic_race_biden.jpg
blatham
 
  4  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 05:57 am
Three Weeks
Quote:
February 26th, 2020. President Trump: “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”


Quote:
March 20th, 2020. Confirmed cases in the United States rise to 16,064.
h/t tpm
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 06:19 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
This morning in Los Angeles
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETFYXryU4AABqsr?format=jpg&name=900x900
To deal with the virus spread, buy weapons. When in lines, maintain adequate space between yourself and others. Or mingle. Your choice.

"At gun stores across the U.S. people are stocking up in enormous numbers."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-sales-rise-coronavirus-concerns-spread/story?id=69722973
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 06:21 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
Did you hear about the one guy who emptied all the shelves of hand sanitizer in a large swath of the stores in Tennessee - hoping to make a killing selling them on Amazon? Amazon shut him down and outed him - he's stuck with 1700+ bottles of the stuff.
An interesting aspect of the story ...
After his identity was revealed I see an argument happening online with a lot of people defending his attempted gouging as good old Yankee ingenuity and the American way.

That was just straightforward marketplace supply and demand. He should sue to challenge the constitutionality of anti-gouging laws, and he should ask the courts to make the taxpayers reimburse him for all the profits he lost when he was forced to donate his property.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 06:22 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
What does really really piss me off is this Politico piece
Quote:
A 'Never Biden' movement vows not to vote for Joe
There is not a single acknowledgement of the role being played here by troll brigades and bots driven by a strategy/intention to set one side against the other so as to damage Dem cohesion and, ultimately, activism and voting. This drives me ******* crazy. We know the Russians are doing and we know (unless we're really stupid) that Parscle and other GOP entities are doing it as well.

I'm a Democrat. I'll never vote for that fascist gun grabbing thug.
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layman
 
  0  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 07:02 am
@oralloy,
A great cartoon which predictably gets downvoted in this forum.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 07:14 am
@layman,
I've posted several more of them this morning on various threads:
https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4156#post-6976597
https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4156#post-6976560
https://able2know.org/topic/44061-948#post-6976551
https://able2know.org/topic/44061-948#post-6976618
layman
 
  0  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 07:27 am
@oralloy,
That guy is really good. I could spend hours just noting, and talking about, the numerous subtleties he incorporates into his cartoons.
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blatham
 
  3  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:14 am
From Margaret Sullivan, WP's media columnist
Quote:
The media must stop live-broadcasting Trump’s dangerous, destructive coronavirus briefings

More and more each day, President Trump is using his daily briefings as a substitute for the campaign rallies that have been forced into extinction by the spread of the coronavirus.

These White House sessions — ostensibly meant to give the public critical and truthful information about this frightening crisis — are in fact working against that end.

Rather, they have become a daily stage for Trump to play his greatest hits to a captive audience. They come in search of life-or-death information but here’s what they get from him instead:


Self-aggrandizement. When asked how he would grade his response to the crisis, the president said, “I’d rate it a 10.” Absurd on its face, of course, but effective enough as blatant propaganda

Media-bashing. When NBC’s Peter Alexander lobbed him a softball question in Friday’s briefing — “What do you say to Americans who are scared?” — Trump went on a bizarre attack. “I say, you’re a terrible reporter,” the president said, launching into one of his trademark “fake news” rants bashing Alexander’s employer. (Meanwhile, he has also found time during these news briefings to lavish praise on sycophantic pro-Trump media like One America News Network, whose staffer — I can’t call her a reporter — invited him to justify his xenophobic talk of a “Chinese virus” by asking rhetorically if he considers the phrase “Chinese food” racist.)

Exaggeration and outright lies. Trump has claimed that here are plenty of tests available (there aren’t); that Google is “very quickly” rolling out a nationwide website to help manage coronavirus treatment (the tech giant was blindsided by the premature claim); that the drug chloroquine, approved to treat malaria, is a promising cure for the virus and “we’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately.” (It hasn’t been approved for this use, and there is no evidence to demonstrate its effectiveness in fighting the virus.)

Trump is doing harm and spreading misinformation while working for his own partisan political benefit — a naked attempt to portray himself as a wartime president bravely leading the nation through a tumultuous time, the FDR of the 21st Century.

The press — if it defines its purpose as getting truthful, useful, non-harmful information to the public, as opposed to merely juicing its own ratings and profits — must recognize what is happening and adjust accordingly. (And that, granted, is a very big “if”)

Business as usual simply doesn’t cut it. Minor accommodations, like fact-checking the president’s statements afterwards, don’t go nearly far enough to counter the serious damage this man is doing to the public’s well-being.

Radical change is necessary: The cable networks, and other news organizations that are taking the president’s briefings as live feeds should stop doing so.

Should they cover the news that’s produced in them? Of course. Thoroughly and relentlessly — with context and fact-checking built in to every step and at every stage.

“There is a very real possibility that in broadcasting these press conferences live or in quickly publishing and blasting out his words in mobile alerts, we are actively misinforming our audience,” Alex Koppelman, managing editor of CNN Business, wrote in an email for the network’s Reliable Sources newsletter.

Koppelman stopped short of overtly calling for the radical solution. Not so Jay Rosen, NYU journalism professor, who wrote on his PressThink blog that the media needs to switch into “emergency mode”for covering Trump, and to clearly communicate that change to its readers and viewers.

“We are not obliged to assist him in misinforming the American public about the spread of the virus, and what is actually being done by his government,” Rosen wrote.

Rather than covering Trump live, he recommended, among other things, that the media should “attend carefully to what he says” and subject it to verification before blasting it out to the public.

It’s important to remember how much Trump’s tune has changed on coronavirus, from blithely dismissive to self-importantly serious.

This is what he was saying about the virus in public as recently as Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

We know, without any doubt, that Trump was ignoring intelligence reports that warned about the likelihood of a pandemic at the same time he was cooing these baseless reassurances. But now he’s claiming that he knew the problem was a pandemic long before others did, and that he took every step possible.

Will people remember the depths of his mendacity and hold him accountable?

“I’m worried about our collective memory when it comes to this,” Charlie Warzel of The New York Times wrote on Saturday. It is this initial lack of action that will cost lives months down the road, he noted. Therefore, “accountability will mean not giving into recency bias when this ends and remembering how it got so bad in the first place.”

There’s a strong counter-argument to be made, of course, that the press shouldn’t be in the business of shielding the public from the president’s statements — no matter how misleading, xenophobic or damaging.

It’s a persuasive argument, and one I wish I could still believe in.

But Trump has proven, time after time, that he doesn’t care about truth, that he puts his financial and political self-interest above that of the public, and that he has no understanding of the role of the press in a democracy. And now lives are on the line.

The news media, at this dangerous and unprecedented moment in world history, must put the highest priority on getting truthful information to the public.

Taking President Trump’s press conferences as a live feed works against that core purpose.

coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:20 am
@blatham,
Quote:
From Margaret Sullivan, WP's media columnist

Pretty much all anyone needs to read to discount everything in the article pertaining to Trump. The hate for the man is palatable. It is piled on so thick that it is obvious and unimportant at the same time.
blatham
 
  2  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:38 am
Champion of "Make the government so small we can drown it in the bath" ideology re-appears
Quote:
Grover Norquist
@GroverNorquist
37m
@realDonaldTrump

George W. Bush allowed his staff to agree to a democrat spending spree instead of pro-growth tax rate reductions in the 2008 bailout.
What did it cost. Trillions, plus control of congress and the presidency thus Obamacare and other stupidities.

Norquist is one of the truly evil figures in the transformation of the GOP to an extremist libertarian party. Everyone is going to have more time to read for a while and I highly recommend learning about this guy. Nina Easton's Gang of Five is an invaluable source on him and three other individuals you ought to know about. But there's tons of writing on him that's available on-line.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:49 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
The hate for the man is palatable.


Most of us feel the same way. In fact, it's more than palatable — it's delicious!
lmur
 
  3  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:52 am
@hightor,
Very Happy Very Happy
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:57 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Most of us feel the same way

You won't be able to say that in November, enjoy until then. That you find hate delicious says a lot about you, but nothing I did not already know.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:59 am
@hightor,
Loves ya.
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RABEL222
 
  3  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:15 pm
@coldjoint,
Trump isent so sure about being reelected. In fact he seems to be running scared. Republicans giving common citizens free money don't compute. Ill bet that the only ones who get any money from this government are millionaires and billionaires.
Damn spell check keeps changing my posts. Wish I could afford a laptop. Maybe I can steal one of the school kids machine as all the kids in my area are homeschooling with them. EDITED
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nimh
 
  7  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:42 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
Reprimanded like a dull, surly schoolboy, eh?

Trump, he ROCKS!

Was this from the same briefing?

Quote:
Trump asked what he'd advise people who've lost their jobs or are worried they will tomorrow, "Well, what they do right now is keep receiving their paycheck. And hopefully their companies are gonna be in a very strong position...we think we're gonna have a tremendous bounceback."

Trump on what he'd advise people worried about losing their jobs tomorrow: "Stay where you are. And we'll see what happens. Now, if they don't (keep their jobs), we have unemployment, we have checks, we have a lot of things happening. A lot of very positive things."

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1241419460579414016

The man's an idiot.
blatham
 
  3  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 02:06 pm
@nimh,
Quote:
The man's an idiot.

Indeed he is. But in one small aspect, that's actually good news. If Trump had the brains of someone like Grover Norquist or McConnell, the immediate problems would be likely much less severe but the long term possibility of continued GOP control would be significantly greater, I think.
 

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