blatham
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:14 pm
Lest we forget

Quote:
David Plouffe
@davidplouffe
His fear of running against Joe Biden is so incredibly transparent. He got impeached trying to prevent it.

No such endeavors put towards any other candidate. Oppo research, sure. Slanders, of course. But nothing like what was invested and risked to stop Biden.
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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:22 pm
Quote:
emptywheel
@emptywheel
The most important piece of news from yesterday, it seems to me, has to do with youth turnout.

It didn't happen.

All the accusations against Warren in the world--or attacks on DNC or the media or whoever--doesn't change that.

This is obviously most acutely a problem for Sanders given the campaign's long-running assertion that he will get this contingent active as voters. But that's the less important problem. Getting out the youth vote is a perennial problem. Obama did remarkably well here but he's been unique. I've got no answers.

Edit: But of the young who did vote (18-29) Sanders beat Biden 58% to 17%.
blatham
 
  4  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:41 pm
Meet Sara Gideon, the Dem candidate challenging Susan Collins
Quote:
Q: What do you think is the clearest explanation for why you have such a good chance of defeating Susan Collins in the Maine senatorial race?

Gideon: I think that voters are tired of decades of constant lying by Susan Collins— if that really is her name.


I love her just for that.
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engineer
 
  5  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:45 pm
@blatham,
I was reading one take on that this morning and it basically said Sanders wants to trade one of the most reliable voting blocks (older voters) for the least reliable and yesterday showed that isn't going to work.
blatham
 
  3  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:47 pm
Quote:
Eliza Collins
@elizacollins1
· 1h
Sanders says no other campaign has had to deal with the “kind of venom” his has, points out they’ve been compared to the coronavirus and Nazis

Damn. Does he actually believe this is true? I can understand the emotional response today but that's no adequate reason to erase the past.
engineer
 
  4  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:48 pm
@blatham,
Yes, of course he believes it. It's kind of his modus operandi in politics.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 02:51 pm
@engineer,
I think that's probably accurate. I sometimes fantasize about some turn of events that would recreate the 60s but I recognize it as foolish wistfulness. There are so few similarities between then and now which might lead to a generational shift of that magnitude.

And I should add that as optimistic and self-certain as we were, that was quickly followed by the early seventies and a concerted project from the right to capture the institutions of America and to protect the existing power structures. We were so blind to this for decades that they may have actually managed to achieve their goals. It is very close right now to being a victory for them.
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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:02 pm
Oh goodness. Brit Hume did a screenshot Tuesday but didn't think to close all the tabs he had open. Note the third tab - Sexy Vinyl Vixens.

https://crooksandliars.com/files/images/20/03/screen-shot-2020-03-03-at-114823.png

Now deleted. Source here
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:29 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
This is obviously most acutely a problem for Sanders given the campaign's long-running assertion that he will get this contingent active as voters.

from the Goldberg column I posted yesterday:
Quote:
According to Broockman and Kalla’s figures, Sanders loses a significant number of swing votes to Trump, but he makes up for them in support from young people who say they won’t vote, or will vote third party, unless Sanders is the nominee. On the surface, these Bernie-or-bust voters might seem like an argument for Sanders. After all, Sanders partisans sometimes insist that Democrats have no choice but to nominate their candidate because they’ll stay home otherwise, a sneering imitation of traditional centrist demands for progressive compromise.

But if Broockman and Kalla are right, by nominating Sanders, Democrats would be trading some of the electorate’s most reliable voters for some of its least. To prevail, Democrats would need unheard-of rates of youth turnout. That doesn’t necessarily mean Sanders would be a worse candidate than Joe Biden, given all of Biden’s baggage. It does mean polls might be underestimating how hard it will be for Sanders to beat Trump.

https://able2know.org/topic/468987-755#post-6967700

Biden's win in Texas was interesting, as the Sanders camp was acting as if the Hispanic vote was a sure thing.

Biden's win in Massachusetts was amazing, as he had no ground game there at all.

And in Maine, Sanders beat Hillary in a landslide in '16. This year, again with no ground game, Biden managed to beat him, just barely.

Sara Gideon looks well-positioned to beat Susan Collins (finally).

And an attempt to repeal the state's new law requiring kids be vaccinated to attend school, with no religious or philosophical exemptions allowed, was handily defeated, by nearly three to one.
engineer
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:30 pm
In news from the weird: Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci says he would campaign for former Vice President Joe Biden if asked to do so.
maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:44 pm
@engineer,
Don’t hold your breath Mooch.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:55 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
In news from the weird: Scaramucci says he would campaign for former Vice President Joe Biden

That should get Biden one vote.
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hightor
 
  3  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:56 pm
@blatham,
Eliza Collins wrote:
Sanders says no other campaign has had to deal with the “kind of venom” his has, points out they’ve been compared to the coronavirus and Nazis


Amazing — for months all we heard from his camp is how the media doesn't pay enough attention to him. Now he comes out with this complaint — which is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect Trump to say.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:56 pm
@blatham,
I guess a guy having a healthy attraction to pretty females is a strange concept for weirdo leftists to grasp.

"Election betting odds" huh. Looks like the market thinks that Trump will clobber Biden. I concur with that assessment.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 03:59 pm
@blatham,
@elizacollins1 wrote:
Sanders says no other campaign has had to deal with the "kind of venom" his has, points out they've been compared to the coronavirus and Nazis

Perhaps Sanders shouldn't be such a neonazi if he doesn't want people to take note of his behavior.
hightor
 
  2  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 04:05 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Perhaps Sanders shouldn't be such a neonazi if he doesn't want people to take note of his behavior.

No one thinks of him as a neo-Nazi. For christ's sake, man, he was referring to Chris Matthews who compared the outpouring of hispanic support for him in Nevada with the German blitzkrieg that mowed over the Maginot line, but clumsily likened it to a "Nazi invasion". Sanders said "they’ve been compared", not "I've been compared".
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 04:07 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
No one thinks of him as a neo-Nazi.

That is incorrect. I think of Bernie Sanders as a neonazi. His false accusations against Israel are appalling.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 04:09 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
No one thinks of him as a neo-Nazi.

When you look at his authoritarian policies that rob people of their own decision making I can see the neo-Nazi claim.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 05:17 pm
Michelle Caruso-Cabrera
·
The Super Tuesday results are evidence that the Democratic party is alive and well, and that America does not wish to become a socialist nation. AOC, please take note.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2020 05:24 pm
@hightor,
Yup.
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