Lash
 
  1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 01:16 am
https://twitter.com/anthonycody/status/1229608230008971265?s=21

23,000 people, from all walks of life, came together in Washington to hear Bernie Sanders.

They filled the Tacoma Dome.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 01:19 am
@snood,
Some media are trying to prop up an alternative to Sanders. They pushed Warren at first, then Buttigieg. Currently it's often Bloomberg whom the journalists favor. Hence the ups and downs in coverage that you noticed.
Lash
 
  0  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 01:35 am
@coldjoint,
Heh. That was wacky.
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hightor
 
  1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 03:26 am
Bernie Sanders: Population Control Helps Combat Climate Change



One of the few leftists willing to say this. Sanders gets it. The comments, by the way, are priceless.

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Brand X
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 05:26 am
Bloomberg has qualified for the Nevada debate since this article published.

'The qualifications set by the Democratic National Committee for Wednesday's debate are a departure from previous debate requirements, which demanded that Democrats meet a donor threshold.

The change paves the way for Michael Bloomberg, who is self-funding his presidential campaign, to debate his Democratic opponents for the first time. The former New York City mayor is on the cusp of qualifying for Wednesday's debate, since he has received at least 10% in three national polls so far. He has exceeded the 10% threshold in polls conducted by Fox News, Quinnipiac and Monmouth. Bloomberg would need to reach 10% in a separate poll in order to qualify. He is not on the ballot in Nevada or South Carolina, the next two early-voting states.

A spokesperson for the billionaire former New York City mayor has said that if he qualifies, he will debate.'

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-debate-nevada-qualify-candidates/
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Brand X
 
  3  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 05:32 am
Erm....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERATyuoX0AIY6_Q?format=jpg&name=medium
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Brand X
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 08:10 am
Zohreen Shah
@Zohreen
.
@staceyabrams
defended
@MikeBloomberg
colossal campaign spending on the
@TheView
: “I think that for once we actually know where the money is coming from."

"Every person is allowed to run and should run the race that they think they should run...” 1/2

Zohreen Shah
@Zohreen
·
17h
Replying to
@Zohreen
“...and Mike Bloomberg has chosen to use his finances. Other people are using their dog, their charisma, their whatever," she added. "I think it's an appropriate question to raise. But I don't think it's disqualifying for anyone to invest in fixing America."
Brand X
 
  3  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 08:57 am
Andrew Ross Sorkin
@andrewrsorkin
·
2h
Breaking: Bloomberg supports financial transaction tax, strengthening Volcker Rule, DOJ suing executives, merging Fannie + Freddie, toughening CFPB...
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revelette3
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 08:59 am
Here's what Michael Bloomberg joining the debate stage means for Wednesday night

Quote:
LAS VEGAS — Tomorrow night here will be the ninth presidential debate for five of the Democratic candidates — Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.

And it will be the first debate for Michael Bloomberg.

A new national NPR/PBS/Marist poll out this morning has Bloomberg hitting 19 percent, giving him his fourth accepted poll at 10 percent or higher, which appears to have qualified him for Wednesday’s Democratic debate.

What’s more, Bloomberg’s campaign has said the former New York City mayor will appear on the stage. “Mike is looking forward to joining the other Democratic candidates on stage and making the case for why he's the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump and unite the country,” campaign manager Kevin Sheekey said in a statement.

And here’s what having Bloomberg at the debate will mean:

It could suck the oxygen from some of the candidates trying to compete with Bernie Sanders — like Pete Buttigieg (who won Iowa) or Amy Klobuchar (who finished a surprising third in New Hampshire). Indeed, our friends over Politico Playbook write: “Bloomberg vs. Bernie: It’s on.”

It gives Sanders and Warren the billionaire foil for their policies and worldview.

And it means that plenty of scrutiny is probably coming Bloomberg’s way.

That could hurt him. Or he could survive and thrive — like Donald Trump did in 2015-2016.

Strikingly, Bloomberg isn’t even competing in Nevada’s caucuses; he’s skipping the first four contests.

But he will be on the debate stage tomorrow night.

Sanders and Bloomberg leapfrog Biden in national poll
When you add it all up, the biggest likely beneficiary to having Bloomberg on the debate stage is Bernie Sanders — who also is now leading that national NPR/PBS/Marist poll by double digits.

Here are the numbers:

Sanders: 31 percent (+9 since December)
Bloomberg: 19 percent (+15)
Biden: 15 percent (-9)
Warren: 12 percent (-5)
Klobuchar: 9 percent (+5)
Buttigieg: 8 percent (-5)

No other candidate gets more than 2 percent in the poll.

The poll also includes hypothetical general-election matchups versus Trump:
Biden 50 percent, Trump 44 percent
Bloomberg 48 percent, Trump 44 percent
Sanders 48 percent, Trump 45 percent
Buttigieg 47 percent, Trump 45 percent
Klobuchar 47 percent, Trump 45 percent

So the Dem candidate who leads Trump by the largest margin – Biden – is also the candidate who’s lost the most ground in the Democratic race after losing in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Quote:
Steven Shepard
@POLITICO_Steve

For all the indignation from the Sanders camp about the rules change that enabled Bloomberg's debate qualification, it's hard to imagine a bigger beneficiary than Bernie. The Vermont senator is surging ahead, but guess who will bear the brunt of the attacks tomorrow night?


2020 Vision: Sanders, Bloomberg lead in Virginia

Speaking of polls this morning, a new Monmouth survey shows Sanders and
Bloomberg are tied in Virginia, which is one of the 14 states holding contests on Super Tuesday, March 3.

The numbers:

Bloomberg: 22 percent
Sanders: 22 percent
Biden: 18 percent
Buttigieg: 11 percent
Klobuchar: 9 percent
Warren: 5 percent

(Remember, if you’re not at 15 percent, you’re not picking up delegates.)
Interestingly, the poll also reduces the Dem field in Virginia into potential two-way contests:

Biden 53 percent, Sanders 38 percent
Bloomberg 47 percent, Sanders 41 percent
Sanders 44 percent, Buttigieg 42 percent
Sanders 45 percent, Klobuchar 42 percent

But one important thing here: Just 25 percent of likely Democratic primary voters in Virginia say they are firmly set on their candidate choice — which means there’s still plenty of uncertainty.

On the campaign trail today

One day before Wednesday’s debate, the action remains in Nevada: Bernie Sanders holds rallies in Las Vegas and Reno before attending a CNN town hall at 8:00 p.m. ET… Pete Buttigieg stumps in Vegas before attending his CNN town hall at 9:00 p.m. ET… Amy Klobuchar also makes stops in Las Vegas before attending her CNN town hall at 10:00 p.m. ET… Elizabeth Warren and Tom Steyer attend a National Domestic Worker Forum in Vegas… And Joe Biden is also in the city… Elsewhere, Tulsi Gabbard campaigns in Virginia.

Dispatches from NBC’s campaign embeds

Even in Nevada, Joe Biden can’t escape Iowa. Per NBC’s Marianna Sotomayor, an event-goer yesterday asked how Biden why he thought he lost, and if he can start winning. Biden responded, “One of the four most difficult states for me to win was going to be in Iowa because--they are good people-- it's all white it’s all Midwesterners and a lot of farming and it was going to be but it-- We did it okay if you take a look at what happened there, I mean it was kind of an that I hope doesn't happen here,” Biden said. “My support in the Democratic Party and all the data still shows you will see is I am the candidate who has the broadest support from all sectors of the economy.”
And Tom Steyer is telling potential voters that his performance in Nevada and South Carolina is “do or die” for him, NBC’s Jordan Jackson reports.

“Steyer answered questions from reporters after the event in South Carolina and spoke about the importance of Nevada and South Carolina to his strategy: ‘They are do or die. You're asking me a question. I'm telling you the truth. It's like, I need to be able to show in states where people have seen me and met me.’”

Data Download: The number of the day is … 26,000
26,000.

That’s the number of Nevada Democrats who have already participated early in Nevada’s caucuses as of yesterday, per the state party.

This is the first time Nevada has enabled caucus-goers to participate early — where participants can rank their choices before caucus day.

Also, 56 percent of those who participated early on Saturday were first-time caucus-goers.
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hightor
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:06 am
@Brand X,
Quote:
@staceyabrams
defended
@MikeBloomberg
colossal campaign spending on the
@TheView
: “I think that for once we actually know where the money is coming from."

If we were to follow the logic applied to similar instances by certain people on this site we would be asking how much money Abrams got paid to say this.
Brand X
 
  1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:08 am
@hightor,
She's definitely looking for a ride, but I don't know how far she'd go.
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:20 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Some media are trying to prop up an alternative to Sanders. They pushed Warren at first, then Buttigieg. Currently it's often Bloomberg whom the journalists favor. Hence the ups and downs in coverage that you noticed.


It's not just "some" media: it's the large set of them that are aligned with the mainstream Democrat Party. Sanders is, in their eyes, an unruly upstart who failed to keep his assigned place as Hillary's token opposition in the 2016 Democrat primary, and instead excited a new wave of enthusiastic supporters in the Democrat party, who were apparently weary of the vague "I know what you really need" posturing of Clinton and her conventional supporters.

Their earlier effort with Biden is headed for failure. Now there's a choice between one of the other surviving candidates, or Bloomberg. The latter is a former RINO billionaire who, together with candidate Tom Steyer reminds voters of the rich corporate billionaires who are taking over the Party. It's a very uncomfortable moment for them.
blatham
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:41 am
Guess why he's tweeting this
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
1h
The Crooked DNC is working overtime to take the Democrat Nomination away from Bernie, AGAIN! Watch what happens to the Super Delegates in Round Two. A Rigged Convention!

hightor
 
  5  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:43 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Sanders is, in their eyes, an unruly upstart who failed to keep his assigned place as Hillary's token opposition in the 2016 Democrat primary...

It's interesting — Sanders wouldn't be where he is today if the Democrats hadn't been saddled with HRC in '16. But I don't think the centrist wing of the party resents the fact that he challenged Clinton last time as much as they doubt his ability to win on a radical platform this time.
Quote:

Their earlier effort with Biden is headed for failure.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Whose "earlier effort"? Do you think Biden was put up to make the run? I don't; I think it was his choice alone. We know he's had this ambition for decades.
Quote:
It's a very uncomfortable moment for them.

It wouldn't be if he were more popular with women and black voters. His wealth was self-made and he's been generous with it.

By the way, it's the Democratic Party and people who belong to it are called "Democrats". There is no "Democrat Party". It's such a needless insult.
revelette3
 
  3  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 09:49 am
@blatham,
If Biden should actually go down after Nevada and Super Tuesday, (I haven't counted him out yet) I bet Trump's and Fox's obsession with Biden and Hunter will mostly disappear.
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 10:03 am
@revelette3,
I doubt that it is an "obsession" as you characterized it. Instead it is a rather normal and predictable reaction to the origin of the recent ill-conceived and poorly executed Impeachment action by the House team of Pelosi/Schiff & Nadler.
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 10:08 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
[Their earlier effort with Biden is headed for failure.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Whose "earlier effort"? Do you think Biden was put up to make the run? I don't; I think it was his choice alone. We know he's had this ambition for decades.
The effort by many in the Democrat establishment to get Biden into the current primary race was well publicized. Many were enthusiastic: some expressed doubts. At the end it was indeed Biden's choice, but my statement was accurate.

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snood
 
  5  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 10:32 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

I doubt that it is an "obsession" as you characterized it. Instead it is a rather normal and predictable reaction to the origin of the recent ill-conceived and poorly executed Impeachment action by the House team of Pelosi/Schiff & Nadler.

C’mon man. They became focused on sliming Biden when he was polling high. They’ve already eased up, and will totally lose interest in him if he drops out of the race.
It was not a part of some comprehensive action to rid Ukraine of corruption.
It was not a reaction to wounds received in the impeachment investigation.

It was a blatant attempt to defame his (at the time) strongest democratic adversary.

Believing other than that is just being ignorant of the very obvious.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 10:43 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
It was not a reaction to wounds received in the impeachment investigation.

Even if your speculation as to motives is correct, Mr. Trump may not have been so eager to have his rivals investigated if his rivals were not already doing the same to him first.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 10:57 am
@oralloy,
It's not so much investigation as it is trump's dirty tricks abusing the power of his office to force an ally to make a sham investigation for trump's personal benefit not the countrys.
 

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