georgeob1
 
  1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 12:38 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

He has a chance, but right now it's mostly because he's an alternative to Trump. Whether his candidacy develops into a more conventional political campaign if he secures the nomination is hard to determine at this point since Trump himself is so unconventional.


Interestingly, Bloomberg and Trump are equally unconventional
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 12:45 pm
@MontereyJack,
Calm down — all anyone has to do is look at the source.
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hightor
 
  2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 12:47 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Interestingly, Bloomberg and Trump are equally unconventional

The idea of two rich guys from NYC running against each other is unconventional!
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 12:54 pm
@georgeob1,
I suppose that "Mayor Mike" will ultimately prevail over "Mayor Pete". Money talks, doesn't it? Bloomberg could end up as the last centrist (??? or not, as in fact, he is closer to a traditional Republican) standing between Bernie Sanders and the nomination. That would present voters with a clear choice I guess, and provide Bernie with an excellent sparing partner. If he can beat a billionaire 10 times richer than Trump, he can beat Trump...
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snood
 
  2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 04:49 pm
No one in the news is even mentioning Warren much anymore, and that’s strange to me. Third in the number of delegates collected thus far (a distant third, admittedly), but with98% of the delegates not yet decided.

There are discrepancies in the way this race is being reported. Harris was castigated for being a prosecutor, but not Klobuchar. Biden gets flak for writing the mass incarceration crime bill, but Bernie gets a pass for voting for it.
Warren took a lot of heat for being a pie/in-the-sky socialist when she tried to carefully spell out her plans, but you just didn’t see the same kind of pressure applied to Bernie to spell out his plans, even though he is famously the socialist.

Just seems stinky to me.
Sturgis
 
  2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 04:55 pm
@snood,
Not to worry though. Bernie may be about to take a hit and zoom downwards. NYC "Mayor" DeBlasio has headed to Nevada to campaign for his once again hero.


(truth is it it hadn't been a news release, I would've thought he left months ago and just hadn't returned from his failed Presidential bid.)
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:04 pm
Quote:
BOOBS FOR BERNIE!!!!

You got anything to do with this Lash?
http://patriotretort.com/boobs-for-bernie/
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:52 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
No one in the news is even mentioning Warren much anymore, and that’s strange to me. Third in the number of delegates collected thus far (a distant third, admittedly), but with 98% of the delegates not yet decided.

No one wins the nomination without coming first or second in New Hampshire.

Perhaps Bloomberg has a chance to upend history with all of his money. None of the others have a chance to upend history.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:53 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
We have to admit that the opinions expressed by Bloomberg are very troubling to get over. In the end, Bloomberg will still be better than Trump. However, we don't have to count Biden out yet. After all the primaries we have had so far have represented mostly all-white votes.

Biden is toast. No one ever wins the nomination without coming in first or second in New Hampshire.

Bloomberg at least has a explanation for how he can upend that system. I think his chances are slim, but at least he has a narrative for how he can pull it off.

Biden on the other hand is not doing anything new that could in theory allow him to upend the system.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:55 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Teachers = NRA according to Bloomberg.

There are worse things to be compared to than a civil liberties organization.


The Hill wrote:
Former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg in a 2013 speech reportedly called civil liberties activists "extremists" over their opposition to the stop-and-frisk policing policy he once championed and compared them to the National Rifle Association (NRA).

The NRA are civil liberties activists.

That Bloomberg hates civil liberties says more about him than it does about people who support civil liberties.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:56 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
We have enough weapons of destruction to destroy the world five times over.

No we don't.


Lash wrote:
We have enough for the Pentagon to lose a few trillion dollars

Just the opposite. We have no air superiority capability against a peer power thanks to Obama ending production of the F-22.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:57 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Jesus Christ! The condescension!...

The condescension is justified. Kids by their very nature are young and foolish. Wisdom will come to them with age.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 07:41 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
#Bloomberg is positioning himself as judge jury and executioner for old people whose lives are no longer valuable to him.

I **** you not.

This is your antidote to Trump? If Trump had paid for a better person to run against to ensure a win, he could not have done a more effective job.

I couldn't figure out how to get this other than on Twitter.

Bloomberg thinks he's god. Fight him to save minorities and older people.

You should see the clip where Bloomberg says that massacre victims should not be permitted to have guns to defend themselves from mass murderers.

It's not about saving lives with progressives. For a progressive the only thing that matters is the feeling of power that they get from violating people's civil liberties.

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georgeob1
 
  1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 07:50 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Warren took a lot of heat for being a pie/in-the-sky socialist when she tried to carefully spell out her plans, but you just didn’t see the same kind of pressure applied to Bernie to spell out his plans, even though he is famously the socialist.

Just seems stinky to me.

I agree with you. However in Bernie's case I suspect he's been proposing his free stuff for all panacea for so long, and has become so convinced of the wonderful results that will surely ensue, that he thinks describing the outcome he envisions is sufficient, it no longer concerns him just how his programs will be either enacted by the Congress or will be organized and paid for by our government.

Perhaps more importantly, neither Sanders nor Warren has taken the trouble to address the side effects that will likely attend their programs - side effects that result simply from the pursuit of self interest by the people and institutions affected by the new programs. Thus Federally subsidized capital pumped into the housing market in 2000 - 2006 ended up creating a bubble in housing prices - which made housing less, not more, accessible for buyers, and led to an eventual crash in 2007 that primarily injured low income buyers, who found themselves overextended and underwater with outstanding mortgage debt greater than the new value of their homes. Similarly pumping new subsidized Federal capital into student loan programs simply led to rapid gross inflation in university tuition, making them less, not more, accessible to students, and burdening a generation of graduates with large debts at the start of their working careers - while they are least able to quickly repay them.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 08:01 pm
@georgeob1,
Sanders is a proponent of Magic Money Tree* economics. He plans to pay for his programs by printing an ocean of money.

*Actually MMT stands for Modern Monetary Theory. But Magic Money Tree is pretty descriptive.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 08:37 pm
@oralloy,
How did it pass you by?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 08:38 pm
@MontereyJack,
It didn't. I am much wiser now than I was when I was 20.

Why do you think people reject progressivism as they grow older? That's wisdom in action.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 08:59 pm
@oralloy,
seems like the progressives running for office are in their 70s. That's the real wisdom that comes with age.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
Those progressives are running for office only because they get a rush out of violating people's civil liberties. It's the only thing that a progressive really cares about.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 12:05 am
https://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/playmouth-rock-.jpeg
Progressives must hate this country.
Quote:
Leftists deface Plymouth Rock with red spraypaint ahead of 400 year anniversary

https://therightscoop.com/leftists-deface-plymouth-rock-with-red-spraypaint-ahead-of-400-year-anniversary/
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