Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:35 am
A new fan made commercial.
Bernie and MLK vs Trump
https://youtu.be/rZAxzMbFTlc
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:40 am
The answer to the drag on the American economy is returning to Redlining. The black people wanting to buy homes caused the 2008 collapse.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/13/mike-bloomberg-once-blamed-end-redlining-2008-housing-collapse/4749017002/

Bloomberg has the easiest solutions to American’s problems.
Let’s embrace him!
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:48 am
Just FYI—“95% of your murders, murderers and murder victims fit one M.O.! You can just take the one description, Xerox it, pass it out to all the cops—They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city.”

I’m so grateful that all crime is solved so quickly and efficiently!! We don’t even need cops in white neighborhoods—or Asian neighborhoods. Just send them all to black neighborhoods—maybe we should call them ghettos, you know, to differentiate them from the decent people.

“So one of the unintended consequences is people say, ‘Oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.’ Yes, that’s true. Why? Because we put all the cops in minority neighborhoods ... Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is.”

“We just throw em up against walls and see what falls out.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/11/bloombergs-stop-and-frisk-comments-draw-criticism-trump-attacks/4721915002/

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snood
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 10:06 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

[I don't mean to discourage anyone making this argument and behaving as you suggest.


I believe discouragement is not your desired effect. But when you say that a Bloomberg nomination would verify that you were attaching yourself to a rotting corpse..,
Maybe you have the luxury of simply opting out.
I was born and raised here.
I kissed my first girl here, served in the military here, married, divorced, and got educated here.
I have voted here since the 1980’s.
I mourned Bobby Kennedy’s and MLK’s death when I was ten or eleven years old because the adults around me mourned them.
I have suffered and celebrated the United States for 61 years.

I’m just saying this is my home and I don’t feel like I have the option of just opting out.
blatham
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 10:09 am
Quote:
Pence Aide: Barr Has ‘A Lot Of Confidence’ Inside WH After Criticizing Trump’s Tweets
TPM

Since Barr did his very public performance telling Trump to shut up with the tweets and that he would not be bullied, Trump has done a lot of re-tweeting of others and all sorts of the standard self-glorifying stuff he does. But not a single push back on Barr. And that is unprecedented where he's been publicly criticized by anyone on his staff. If nothing else gives the game away, this does.

Trump needs Barr to get what he wants. Barr needs Trump to get what Barr wants. Their presentation is performance art. Which is to say, both of these corrupt authoritarian douchebags are lying through their teeth.
blatham
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 10:19 am
@snood,
Quote:
Maybe you have the luxury of simply opting out...I’m just saying this is my home and I don’t feel like I have the option of just opting out.

I know. And with luck (a ****-ton of it) things will correct.
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revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 10:42 am
@snood,
We have to admit that the opinions expressed by Bloomberg are very troubling to get over. In the end, Bloomberg will still be better than Trump. However, we don't have to count Biden out yet. After all the primaries we have had so far have represented mostly all-white votes.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 10:59 am
Another great ad for Bernie. I’m so appreciative but teary to see #EricaGarner featured 2 or 3 times. She didn’t have to die. https://youtu.be/CxHGCOfzzhk
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revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 11:32 am
How the Iowa caucuses came ‘crashing down,’ under the watchful eye of the DNC
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revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 11:39 am
Bernie Sanders is powered by a loyal base, but results in Iowa and New Hampshire show the movement has limits

Quote:
Perhaps more troubling for Sanders are the signals that he is having difficulties expanding his appeal beyond his staunchest backers. Half the voters in Tuesday's Democratic primary in New Hampshire said his positions were too liberal, according to exit polls. He has struggled among older voters, who make up a significant part of the Democratic electorate, and in some suburban areas similar to places analysts say could be key in upcoming races. Critics also say hostility from his fervent followers makes some potential supporters feel unwelcome.


I admit I am very scared of 2020. I can't think of a worse case if Trump gets re-elected, yet I see it coming. We have no clear front runner to get behind and our party is too fractured to come together to fight Trump.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 11:41 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Trump needs Barr to get what he wants. Barr needs Trump to get what Barr wants. Their presentation is performance art. Which is to say, both of these corrupt authoritarian douchebags are lying through their teeth.
You have no factual basis on which to claim knowledge of the intentions and motives of either player in this matter. Your assertions here involve only your paranoid fears and projections. They are fantasy.

That these events are merely like what they appear to be: i.e. that Barr might use a Trump-like forum to respond and caution the President not to interfere too directly in the legal matter at hand, and that Trump might still have confidence in Barr, is entirely plausible.

The fact is that according to the Constitution the Attorney general serves at the pleasure of the President, though his appointment must be approved by the Senate. In addition the President is specifically charged in the Constitution with enforcing the law, and the Attorney General is his agent for doing that. Such a dialogue in no way confounds those principles.

Another example of Trump hysteria, or TDS
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:04 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Sure. I'm not going to argue with anyone on this. I simply expect that if he does pull it off, he'll be followed by Mark Zuckerberg. And I've had my fill of greedy sociopaths and ego-maniacs. In my way, I truly love America. But like discovering that one's brother or cousin or father is a serial rapist and murderer, there comes a point where one just cuts all ties even if with great regret.


Unfortunately self-centered and self-promoting people are abundant in this world and also particularly concentrated among political leaders everywhere.

How do you feel about Justin Trudeau?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:06 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
How do you feel about Justin Trudeau?

Dress up boy? The man of a thousand blackfaces? Castro's son? What's not to like?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:20 pm
@snood,
Quote:
reverse all the damage Trump has done?

What damage? People say that and cannot come up with anything he has done that hurts one American citizen. Give it a try.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:23 pm
@revelette3,
Sanders has grown his base appreciably.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/23/21054937/bernie-sanders-path-2020-democratic-nomination-explained

Excerpt:
Winning Iowa is critical for Sanders, but this strategy goes far beyond just one state. Sanders is now the leading 2020 candidate among Latino voters, which is helping boost his profile in the February 22 Nevada caucuses and delegate-rich California, which votes on Super Tuesday. Joe Biden might have a big lead among black voters as a whole, but the senator from Vermont has made significant inroads with younger black voters.

Though Sanders’s 2016 campaign had a reputation for attracting a disproportionately white coalition, that has changed in a big way this time around. Younger voters and people of color may be the key to Sanders’s path to victory.

Excerpt:
Notably, Sanders was by far the most favorable candidate among likely voters making less than $50,000 per year.

Excerpt:
A December study by the LA Times and UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies found Sanders narrowly leading Warren in California, with Biden and Buttigieg in third and fourth. And a November Latino Decisions poll found Sanders the top candidate among Latinos in California by close to 10 points.

Excerpt:
A potential boost to Sanders’s campaign this time around is support from Latino voters, with whom the senator is leading nationwide, according to a January Morning Consult tracking poll. Latino voters tend to be younger and more progressive, with ties to organized labor, a group friendly to Sanders. In 2016, he was just introducing himself to Latino voters; now he’s a known entity.

Excerpt:
Latino groups in key states have reported that Sanders’s campaign has been very active there, and the campaign has hired more than 100 Latino staffers across the country, including in top positions. Nick Salazar, the state president of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), serves as an Iowa campaign co-chair. And Sanders’s California state director is Rafael Návar, a former activist and union organizer originally from heavily Latino East Los Angeles.

It’s “integrated to every department, everything we do,” Rocha said. “We went to the community, listened to the community, hired the community, and we ... invested early in that community.”

_______________________________________________

We are growing while most of the rest of the field is shrinking.
revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:28 pm
@Lash,
I don't buy it, but I suppose time will tell. It wouldn't be the worse thing that could happen in any event.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:31 pm
Bernie polling at 29% nationwide. Guess he's been growing his base.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482969-sanders-builds-double-digit-national-lead-poll

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has opened up a double-digit lead over his next closest rivals in a new national survey.

The latest Morning Consult poll finds Sanders at 29 percent support, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden at 19 percent and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg at 18 percent. Sanders gained 3 points in the poll after winning the New Hampshire primary this week, while Biden lost 3 points after a disastrous fifth-place showing.

The latest poll confirms Sanders’s status as the front-runner in the race for the Democratic nomination. In addition to winning New Hampshire, Sanders pulled more votes than anyone else at the Iowa caucuses, although it appears that former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg will narrowly win the delegates edge in the Hawkeye State.


Buttigieg finished a close second in New Hampshire and held steady in the Morning Consult survey at 11 percent support. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who finished a distant fourth place in New Hampshire, came in at 10 percent in the new poll.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), whose surprise third-place finish in New Hampshire launched her into the thick of the race, is at 5 percent support, picking up 2 points from the prior survey.

Electability is the top issue on voters' minds and Sanders is now viewed as the best positioned to defeat President Trump, with 29 percent saying he’s most electable, followed by Bloomberg at 25.

Biden’s electability case has taken a severe hit after fourth- and fifth-place finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire, dropping from 29 percent earlier this month to 17 percent in the latest poll.

Biden is hoping that the black voters who have been the backbone of his support stick with him as the contests turn to the more diverse states of Nevada and South Carolina.

But the Morning Consult survey found a 10-point drop among black voters in their confidence that Biden has the best shot of defeating Trump. Thirty-two percent of black voters said Sanders has the best chance of defeating Trump, followed by Biden and Bloomberg at 21.

hightor
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Dress up boy? The man of a thousand blackfaces? Castro's son? What's not to like?

The question wasn't even addressed to you. Why are you obsessed with Trudeau and (more worryingly) his "manliness"??

I am more worried about what makes a man and I do not see Trudeau measuring up.

"Measuring up" to what? It's not healthy.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:36 pm
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483307-bloomberg-compared-civil-libertarians-teachers-union-to-nra-extremists-in

#VoterBeware

Teachers = NRA according to Bloomberg.

Just FYI--Trump will win re-election if Democrats are stupid enough to cheat Bernie out of the nomination / or most especially if they nominate Bloomberg.
_______________________________________________

Former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg in a 2013 speech reportedly called civil liberties activists “extremists” over their opposition to the stop-and-frisk policing policy he once championed and compared them to the National Rifle Association (NRA).

“We don’t need extremists on the left or the right running our police department, whether it’s the NRA or the [New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU)],” the then-mayor and current Democratic presidential candidate says in a recording of the speech obtained by Politico.

In remarks to New York City Police Department (NYPD) brass, Bloomberg blasts the NYCLU for lobbying for legislation that would make it easier for people targeted under the stop-and-frisk policy to sue the police department.


“The legislation is based on the false allegation that the NYPD disproportionately stops young men of color, but as you know, stops are made based on descriptions of suspects and suspicious activity only,” Bloomberg said. “And the sad reality is on the streets of our city, 90 percent of murder suspects and murder victims are black and Latino. And black and Hispanics are the overwhelming majority of suspects in other violent crimes.”

In another recording that surfaced last week, however, Bloomberg defended racial disparities associated with the policy as necessary, saying in 2015 that the "way you get guns out of minorities’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them.”

A New York court ruled the same year that stop and frisk was racially discriminatory. The city dropped its appeal of the ruling after Bloomberg’s successor, Bill de Blasio (D), took office in 2014.

Bloomberg also compared the United Federation of Teachers to the NRA in 2007 and 2013 comments, according to Politico, saying in 2013 that, like the teachers’ union, "The NRA’s another place where the membership, if you do the polling, doesn't agree with the leadership."

Stu Loeser, a Bloomberg campaign senior advisor and his longtime mayoral spokesman, told Politico that the "reference to the [teachers union] was something Mike said in the heat of the moment that he now regrets."

The Hill has reached out to the Bloomberg campaign for comment.



coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:47 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
The question wasn't even addressed to you

So what? This is a forum. And I am not obsessed with Trudeau, I just think he is a progressive idiot. And Blatham running down our country with an idiot like that running his rubs me the wrong way.
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