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@georgeob1,

You are an example of a person sticking their nose in a lying authoritarians ass and following him wherever he goes.

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@hightor,

Measuring down to Trump.

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@Lash,

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Bernie polling at...

Once again, these polls are nonsense. They change not only daily; but, hourly.

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@Sturgis,

I don’t command anyone to heed them, but Nevada is caucusing, so on days like this, I’ll likely share a current poll.

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1229127380402393088

#Bloomberg is positioning himself as judge jury and executioner for old people whose lives are no longer valuable to him.

I **** you not.

This is your antidote to Trump? If Trump had paid for a better person to run against to ensure a win, he could not have done a more effective job.

I couldn't figure out how to get this other than on Twitter.

Bloomberg thinks he's god. Fight him to save minorities and older people.

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@Lash,

In this area I believe Bloomberg is being a good deal more open and honest than most others who promise health care for all. The fact is that most government-managed health care systems do exactly that -ration care to the very sick and elderly. They do it by limiting the number and availability of specialists of all types for those who would otherwise need them. One result is that survival rates for those with many serious disease like heart or arterial failure or cancer are far lower than in the United States. This is particularly evident in the UK and Canada, where wait times for access to specialists are very long and advanced cases of the diseases at the onset of treatment are nearly the norm.

It is simply a fact that the best way to reduce or limit cost without reducing life expectancy is to deny care to the sick and elderly.

I believe it is very dangerous for a nation that values individual freedom to put the ability to make and enforce such decisions in the hands of government.

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Michael Tracey
@mtracey
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Steve Bannon has an argument all done and ready-to-go about how Bloomberg's stop-and-frisk policy caused racial strife in NYC and disproportionately deprived blacks of civil liberties. Meanwhile, Trump is airing Super Bowl commercials about releasing black grandmas from prison

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@georgeob1,

Your contentions fly in the face of public health metrics and life expectancy measurements.

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@Brand X,

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Steve Bannon has an argument all done and ready-to-go about how Bloomberg's stop-and-frisk policy caused racial strife in NYC and disproportionately deprived blacks of civil liberties.

What arguments does he have saved up for using against Sanders?

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@georgeob1,

Certainly you have links for your claims. (It's difficult for me to understand believe that there are countries "limiting the number and availability of specialists of all types".)

In Germany, the 72 million compulsorily insured people can consult a physician or a psychotherapist of their own choice at any time and anywhere in the country.

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@hightor,

Probably only needs one angle........SOCIALISM.

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@Brand X,

When Bernie comes back with ‘We already have socialism for the rich—they pay less than you do in taxes, they lost your money in the crash and we bailed their profit party out—the US is now running on socialism for the rich—the healthcare industry is literally killing you and your neighbors and profiting BILLIONS’—I’m confident you’ll see the continued rise of Sanders.

We also have Bloomberg on tape telling older people that at a certain age, continuing their healthcare is a waste of money. He’s into euthanizing people he considers of little value.

He believes in mass-copying arrest warrants — all criminals are black or brown 16-25. Maybe we should save law enforcement salaries and euthanize/ just blow up the ghettos.

I have no respect for anyone who would vote for Bloomberg. What the **** kind of country is this?

Trump will beat Bloomberg.
Bernie will beat Trump.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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In Germany, the 72 million compulsorily insured people can consult a physician or a psychotherapist of their own choice at any time and anywhere in the country.

Same in France and Italy. But then, the cost for medicines are far lower, like ten times smaller, in Europe as compared to the US.

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A large block of progressives will not vote for Bloomberg under any circumstances.

If you give the nom to Bloomberg, you may as well vote for Trump.
Just useful info.
#OnlyBernieBeatsTrump

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Bernie breaks out of the pack

In Nevada, rival campaigns privately concede the race is for second or third place.

By DAVID SIDERS, 02/17/2020

LAS VEGAS — Bernie Sanders is becoming harder to stop. Nevada is where his opponents are starting to realize it.

Advisers to three rival campaigns privately conceded over the weekend that the best anyone else could hope for here is second or third. Some of them gape at the crowd sizes at Sanders' events — like the swarm of supporters who accompanied Sanders, his fist raised, to an early caucus site in Las Vegas on Saturday, the first day of early voting in the state.

While few expect that Sanders can carry more than a third of the vote in Nevada, nearly everyone believes that will be enough to win in a field where the moderate vote remains splintered. It is becoming a source of celebration for Sanders' supporters and an urgent problem for those who want to prevent him from claiming the nomination.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/17/bernie-sanders-nevada-breaks-pack-115450

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@blatham,

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Without quoting somebody else, what is it exactly do you think happened around the sentencing of Roger Stone?
Sure. Let's look at the timeline:

1) the prosecutors made a sentencing recommendation based on the nature of the crimes and based on relevant federal sentencing guidelines.

2) Trump sent out his angry tweet

3) within some hours, Barr announced a review of the recommendations

4) Trump sent out another tweet suggesting a thank you to Barr for backing him up

5) Barr made a public announcement saying he wouldn't be bullied and Trump's tweets weren't helping him

Given Barr's prior dishonesty (his withholding of and false/distorted summation of the Meuller findings) consistent support of Trump and given his long-held ideas on how presidential powers should have few if any constraints from Congress or prior norms or even settled law (he does not believe in co-equal powers) there is little reason to imagine that his acts constitute anything but blanket support for Trump regardless of anything else. But, for a set of reasons which are partially transparent and obvious, he must forward the pretense that his Justice Department remains dedicated to consistent judicial practices and that it is not determined by partisan/ideological goals. We would be correct if we were to presume he would NOT have been operating in this manner if the president was Obama.

See, there are some issues with your timeline...

1) The prosecutors are supposed to take sentencing recommendations up the chain of command as is policy. These prosecutors decided to dispense with that and go ahead and recommend the highest possible recommendation possible.

2) The DOJ, making note of that, handed down appropriate recommendations for Stone which were not as harsh as the former prosecutors recommended.

3) Trump sent a tweet

4) Dems lost there minds... again... It's all a show, you know that. I know that.

5) Barr had to react to the Dems losing their minds.

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Although it is heartbreaking to see the level of gaslighting and vote-buying sweeping this country, I am hopeful in the response from masses. With every cheap attack and news of Bloomberg’s past, etc, huge groups unite with #OurRevolution. I’m also relieved that the Democrats running are calling him out, though I’m wary of one being plucked from the herd by Bloomberg for a meat puppet Veep. (looking at Pete)

The DNC should not have changed the rules for a billionaire. Booker and Kamala had to abide by those rules. ‘Different rules for rich people’ is the crucible issue in this country. I actually think if we can bust through to the super low info voters Bloomberg is targeting with carpet ads, his behavior will catapult Bernie to the presidency. Bernie’s constant stump about the idea of the 1% transforms to an actual 1% on the stage, breaking the rules, mistreating poors, saying we should euthanize the old, actively creating enmity between the black and brown sons of this country and law enforcement —Bernie will tear him to pieces on the stage and any decent soul will see the inherent evil in the perspective of the ultra rich against the rest of us. We are disposable.

Can this dystopian carnival get any weirder?

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John Oliver breaks down MedicareForAll.
https://youtu.be/7Z2XRg3dy9k

Save yourself.

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@Lash,

John Oliver is a cartoon. The things he does are stupid and pointless.

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@Olivier5,

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It is becoming a source of celebration for Sanders' supporters and an urgent problem for those who want to prevent him from claiming the nomination.

It's becoming a source of celebration for the Trump campaign as well. And now the Dems have two problems — stopping Sanders and stopping Bloomberg! Sanders can't win in November. Bloomberg is actively engaged in making a mockery of the whole process and is only slightly more viable than Sanders. Sanders leads an army of enthusiastic lemmings; Bloomberg is an army of dollars.

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