Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 11 Dec, 2019 07:06 pm
Chris Hayes

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Here's a good answer to "how will you pay for it?"

The president will pay for his/her programs the same way Space Force is paid for: by having Congress authorize and then appropriate the money.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 11 Dec, 2019 07:30 pm
@BillW,
What if the artist had drawn the same cartoon but with an old guy in an AFL-CIO baseball cap wearing a Biden button mentioning family arguments, the bystander asking the same question, and the old guy saying, "Worse...they're socialists." Seems pretty much equivalent to me. It would have been as easy to portray the moderate in an unflattering manner as it was the progressive.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 11 Dec, 2019 07:40 pm
ocialist Voice 🌐 Retweeted

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Those who want to leave the EU without selling off our NHS will be able to vote for it.

Those who want to remain in the EU will be able to vote for that.

Only a Labour government will take the decision out of the hands of politicians and give the people the final say.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 11 Dec, 2019 08:15 pm
@hightor,
I guess then it would have been:

an old guy in an AFL-CIO baseball cap wearing a Biden button mentioning family arguments, the bystander asking the same question, and the old guy saying, "Worse...they're socialists."

wouldn't it?

Now, what if the shirt had of said "Republican Moderate"; and he said, "Worse......they're Republican Fascist!"
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 03:04 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/11/jeremy-corbyn-tells-labour-to-go-flat-out-in-final-pre-election-push

In part:

Jeremy Corbyn tells Labour to go ‘flat out’ in final pre-election push
Leader in last-ditch quest for votes as John McDonnell warns of ‘dark age’ with Johnson majority
General election latest – live news
Rajeev Syal, Kate Proctor and Frances Perraudin
Wed 11 Dec 2019 15.25 EST

Jeremy Corbyn rallied supporters to get out to marginal seats and go “flat out” campaigning for the final day of action before voters go to the polls.
In a 500-mile trip from Scotland to southern England on Wednesday – stopping at seats where Labour is battling the Conservatives, the Liberal Democrats and the Scottish National Party – the Labour leader urged supporters to fight for every vote.
Following encouraging polls, which showed that he has narrowed Boris Johnson’s lead, Corbyn began with an event in the morning in Scotland, before heading to the Midlands and Bedford, with a last rally in London in the evening.

In a half-hour stopover in Bedford, where the Labour candidate, Mohammad Yasin, won in 2017 with a majority of 789, Corbyn urged hundreds of supporters that they could go with confidence into election day.
“Be of good cheer and be of good confidence. Go out tomorrow in the snow, hail, sleet and sunshine.
“Re-elect Mohammad, make Bedford Labour and win the general election,” he said at the 84th and final constituency visit of the campaign.
To a laughing crowd, he impersonated Johnson stumbling over the number of hospitals the government plans to build, and then ridiculed the prime minister for apparently hiding following a request for a television interview on Wednesday morning.
“Our manifesto is a serious manifesto and it is fully funded. We put ourselves out there to be questioned on this. I take questions on our manifesto, John McDonnell does as does everyone else. I don’t have to go and hide in a fridge when somebody comes to ask me a question,” he said.
Labour is also fighting to win in nearby Luton North, where the former Labour MP Kelvin Hopkins stood down when parliament dissolved.
In Luton South it is up against the former Labour MP Gavin Shuker, who is now standing as an independent.

Later at a rally in Hoxton in London, Corbyn said that the choice facing the UK is a “truly historic” fork in the road between a Labour government which empowers people or a Tory government which works for the wealthy.
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I can’t sleep—I’m so excited.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 05:26 am
Michael Tracey

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Resistance hero and impeachment superstar Adam Schiff voted YES on Trump's massive military budget, which was stripped of all measures to restrain Trump's war powers, but secret Republican (because she appears on Fox News occasionally) Tulsi voted NO -- imagine that
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 05:52 am
@Brand X,
You see liberal Democrats voting for defense budgets all the time. These votes follow months of debating, amending, and horse-trading. No one gets everything they want, everyone ends up accepting things they didn't want. Often it comes down guaranteeing work for constituents in defense industries. The votes are never close so if someone wants to make an anti-military statement by voting against it they can do so but the passage of these huge bills is never really in doubt.
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 06:05 am
@hightor,
Payola for sure.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 10:48 am
@hightor,
That's a devastating piece.
Quote:
Mr. Johnson’s team has seized upon a terrifying truth: that the old media, particularly the broadcasters, and the establishment that has decided its rules of operation, are no longer the gatekeepers to communication. Cunning politicians can skip accountability, and British broadcasting’s rules on impartiality and balance, by going straight for the voters’ emotional jugular. In place of public and professional scrutiny there’s Twitter and Facebook, where millions of micro-targeted messages are flooding key voters.
This graph speaks to the fundamental problem. Similarities here are impossible to ignore or deny. And the apparent success of such propaganda techniques facilitated by modern communications technologies will only inspire other bad-faith players to do the same everywhere.
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I fear for Britain's future.
Oh yes. But the problem is far, far broader.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 01:35 pm
Peter Daou

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MorePeter Daou Retweeted Leela Daou
BARACK OBAMA: Attacking the left

MICHELLE OBAMA: Praising Bush's values

HILLARY CLINTON: Going after Bernie

CHUCK SCHUMER: Giving McConnell the judiciary

NANCY PELOSI: Handing Trump a trade victory after absolving him of crimes against humanity

THAT is the establishment.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 01:57 pm
Quote:
Rashida Tlaib on black suspects’ murder of Jews in Jersey City: “White supremacy kills”

This lady is considered progressive. She is a hater plain and simple.
Quote:
An embarrassing clown, unable or unwilling to restrain her dogma even for the five seconds it would have taken to check the facts before tweeting about an anti-semitic murder.

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/12/12/tlaib-black-suspects-murder-jews-jersey-city-white-supremacy-kills/
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 02:58 pm
Tulsi Gabbard

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The Afghanistan War has been a gravy train for military contractors, corrupt politicians & warlords. My new bill will call for a congressional investigation. It's time for accountability. As president, I commit to immediately bring our troops home, complete within a few months
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 06:48 pm
Looks like Corbyn got his clocked cleaned. That is a good thing.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 07:40 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
I fear for Britain’s future.


As I fear for America's.

The problem is not some sort of rebirth of early 20th Century fascism (although it may eventually lead to that) it is the perception of common everyday citizens that the elites running their governments (and their lives) not only don't respect their views and traditions but consider them, at best, boorishly ignorant and at worst, evil.

There are clear reasons why the "working class" of the UK, which has long been the backbone of Labour, is now turning to the Tories and it isn't because they went to school with a Torey chum at Eton, nor is it because they are blindly ignorant racists. There are equally clear reasons why the "working class" in the US (long the backbone of the Democrat party) are turning to the GOP.

The elite, professional class in the UK and the US have also switched sides and so the entire political landscape in both nations is turning on its head.

The primary difference and most concerning aspect of this shift is that the class that has moved from the right to the left expresses publically utter disdain for those they left behind and who have taken their place.

We are in the midst of a Western Civilization Culture War. Those on the left will predictably sneer over such a statement as if it was absurd or the sign of a troglodyte, however, this is why the left will lose this war. Arrogant dismissal of your enemy has always led to defeat. If you don't believe that check out the Roman/Carthage Wars, the Persian/Greek wars the American Revolution and the Vietnam War, just to name a few.

But, but, but, progressives will argue, those on the right are equally disdainful of those on the left.

Nonsense

First of all those on the right (unlike those on the left), rarely if ever, express contempt for everyday Americans who vote Democrat. Yes, they absolutely deride and insult arrogant elitists and Woke Wonders but unless you believe such people are the majority of the Democrat rank & file, my contention holds firm.

The average Democrat in 2019 sneers at Walmart Shoppers, Watta-Burger Eaters, virtually everyone living in the South, and Trump supporters, because they now see themselves as members of the elite: college-educated professionals who know so much more than a welder or farmer, and are, by far, morally superior to any Alabama or Texas cracker.

To be certain, when the highly educated professional class were Republicans (or Tories) they also sneered and derided the unwashed masses. There is nothing about this disgusting behavior that is ideological. It is a distressing aspect of human nature.

The difference with today's Democrats/Labourites/Liberals/Progressives is 1) Their education has been thoroughly infected with left-wing propaganda, 2) Their privilege allows them to focus on the trivial and 3) They all long for facile affirmation of their virtue which, apparently, can only be achieved through public condemnation.

At least when they were Republicans and Tories they saved their sneering for dinner parties.

One of the best things that ever happened to me was that I married very young (18) and decided not to go to college. For four years I worked in factories and construction and drove a truck. During that time I got to meet and make friends with people who I probably never would have otherwise and which, frankly, as a young liberal from a liberal middle-class home, I vaguely believed were beneath me. Some of them were total jerks and some were very stupid, but most of them were decent human beings working very hard to support their families. Some were very well self-educated and some, educated or otherwise, very wise.

It is astounding that the Western Left now, consistently, looks down its collective nose at the working class of the world (and please don't insult me or yourself by offering any cynical, fraudulent quotes from Pelosi or her droogs about how they are championing "working men and women" in this country)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming that the GOP is now 100% the party of the working class. It is far too beholden to the Establishment for that, but it does offer these folks a political harbor that the Democrats have utterly abandoned. Their words to the contrary are seen for what they are, fraudulent.

At some point, blatham may swoop in with nonsense about anti-intellectualism. I revere intellectualism, but not if it requires contempt for those who don't pass the test of pseudo-intellectuals.

The Establishment elite was gobsmacked over Trump's victory. They had been so thoroughly venal and self-interested that they supported the thoroughly corrupt and sociopathic Hillary Clinton. From the day he won they moved to remove him.

For what? Because he was found to have talked about grabbing pussys? In response to that, I need only cite JFK, LBJ, and FDR (to mention but a few)

Because he was colluding with the Russians? We now know that this was an entirely false charge perpetrated by a corrupt FBI and CIA

Because he won't kowtow to a corrupt media? Please tell me what he has done in this regard that compares to past presidents like Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Nixon, and Obama.

The ignorant and hysterical imbeciles who liken Trump or Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage to Hitler or Mussolini, have no idea of what is in store for them if they keep ignoring and insulting the concerns of everyday Americans and Brits.

Keep it up and you will bring something far worse on yourselves and the rest of us.


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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 08:16 pm
Quote:
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has secured a large conservative majority in Parliament following the U.K.’s snap general election on Thursday. According to preliminary results from BBC, Johnson’s Conservative Party is on course to get 368 seats in Parliament, which is up from the current 298 seats.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELnk6U3WkAIjy7s?format=jpg&name=small



Beautiful.
https://www.oann.com/report-boris-johnsons-conservatives-win-majority-in-parliament/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 12 Dec, 2019 09:22 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You might be the only one who reads this, besides me.

Quote:
Democrats Embrace 'Principled' Totalitarianism

Quote:
By any means necessary.

Perhaps nothing illuminated this dynamic better than the two-part impeachment “inquiry” conducted by Democrats, where a “whistleblower” first deemed integral to the entire procedure was jettisoned in favor of a generalized “quid pro quo,” which became collusion, then bribery, all of which was ultimately formalized as obstruction of Congress and abuse of power.

How disingenuous are Democrats? Last Saturday, the House Judiciary Committee released a report that contained an astonishing assertion. “The question is not whether the President’s conduct could have resulted from permissible motives,” it states. “It is whether the President’s real reasons, the ones in his mind at the time, were legitimate.”

Translation: “thoughtcrime” is grounds for impeachment.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/67325-democrats-embrace-principled-totalitarianism-2019-12-12
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2019 03:25 am
@Brand X,
Daou speaks for the establishment left.



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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2019 03:28 am
@coldjoint,
Seems Corbyn was picking up support until the establishment left in this country started pairing him with Sanders as some sort of dynamic duo about to lead us to the promised land.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2019 05:41 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Keep it up and you will bring something far worse on yourselves and the rest of us.


I've got news for you; it's already here.

https://e2k9ube.cloudimg.io/s/cdn/x/https://edienet.s3.amazonaws.com/news/images/full_37965.jpg?v=13/02/2019%2012:02:00
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2019 07:10 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
At some point, blatham may swoop in with nonsense about anti-intellectualism. I revere intellectualism, but not if it requires contempt for those who don't pass the test of pseudo-intellectuals.

Who can resist a formal invitation to intellectual swooping?

Me, that's who.

 

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