Progressives (Liberals)

Love the change of expression as he realizes he's being booed and jeered!

Yes, I think that medical coverage initiatives are driven by an expected "Thank you" from citizens but I wouldn't omit the aspect of a sincere moral vision in there as well. Republicans, being free of such a moral vision, have an advantage - they can go full-bore on obstruction and the slime game. It's simple, easy and it addresses the basest aspects of social brain function.

And they'll do that no matter what issue moves to the fore in Dem policy proposals. Climate change has been and will continue to be responded to by Republicans as we see them responding. But I think it has the benefit of being the issue which is much easier to understand for citizens, particularly younger citizens.

I hadn't seen that! Wow. You can see his internal sicknesses emerge on his face in real time. If broadcasters and stadium jumbotron staff had been on their toes, they could have replayed that over and over.

And if I was involved in Dem campaigns, I might very well run that piece (with audience booing) as a campaign ad.

Addendum to that last...

Unlike all his predecessors, Trump has chosen to avoid the Kennedy Center Honors performances which honor the contributions of America's greatest musical figures. Likewise, he refuses to show himself at the Correspondents' Dinner. And this was his first Major League ball attendance.

He avoids such situations because he knows he will be received as he was yesterday. Jesus christ he is a mess.

Perhaps that is so Edgar, it is so actually, however, not everyone is a one man supporter.

Out of all the internet news sites, my favorite is not one that you have to have a subscription. I guess because the whole purpose of the site, Vox, is to understand the news. I love their explainers and articles.

Here are two which are really relevant right now in our prolonged election season. (among others) The first is just so sad given the court is staked in Trump and anti-immigrants republicans favor.

“I’ve felt a profound sadness in the last two years”: What life is like for DREAMers right now


This is one is relevant given the focus of so many in the left to focus so much on Medicare for All and use it as a tool in the democrat primary.

The big difference in 2020 health plans isn’t among Democrats

I understand, but actually for some of us who are not the most healthy or wealthy (maybe we are wise, lame JK), the health care plan is very important. But you are right, if we don't have majorities in congress, it won't matter anyway.

It's important for many, many people. But do we want to spend the next election cycle trying to implement a major reworking of our total healthcare system as some of the Dems are advocating? I think we'd do better to fix and improve the current system and try to stabilize the rising costs of coverage, treatment, and prescriptions. When we get a system which is working for everyone the sense of desperation and unfairness will decline and then we can start planning for an orderly conversion to a single payer universal system.

That was tried with Obamacare and all it did was allow for manipulation and it kept us healthcare poor, ultimately. It allowed the politicians and insurance people to play with it and degrade it rather than building ****. Only universal healthcare now will do a thing for us.

It was stymied by opposition in congress and by third parties with deep pockets. But the framework is in place and it can be rebuilt. I don't know why you think it would be easier to completely replace it with something untried and strongly opposed by the same forces which derailed the ACA. Add in the specter of "socialism" and higher taxes and see how successful that is.

Of course a single payer system is where we should end up but that will require a significant degree of popular trust in government — which doesn't currently exist. That's why I'd recommend fixing the current system first, to show people that "Yes, we can". Then use the shortcomings of the re-tooled ACA to develop a universal system, sell it to the electorate, and implement it in an organic manner as an improvement rather than a wholesale replacement.

Now, if Sanders managed to win in a landslide and socialists captured both houses, well yeah, then you'd have an obvious mandate for revolutionary change and Medicare for All might become a reality, notwithstanding a hostile judiciary. But I don't think that's going to happen.

I remember arguing with members here that the country was ready for a black president. So many on these pages said I was wrong.

‘If we were ready for a black president, we’d have one’ was the argument. I’m feeling the same thing now about MedicareForAll. We’ve made moves toward it, Obamacare tippled at it... Bernie’s push has forced the other Dem candidates to at least claim they’ll do something about it, though sensible people know they’re just talking.

But, it is time. A constellation of events has aligned. This is our time.

I made another convert today. Oddly at school. I never talk politics at school, but she brought it up. LOL!! And then a Trumper teacher walked in and I thought they were going to lock up.

Anyway, she mentioned excitement about Warren’s campaign and before I could check myself, I said, “But, you’re a lefty!”

She and I were on exactly the same page about the wonders of the Bern. She’s from CT and had met him, lives him, etc—but ‘didn’t think the country ‘was ready.’

I think I might’ve shamed her a bit. Didn’t mean to. We had a little talk about lefties hanging together and being true to what we know is right. She promised to vote Bern in the primary.

She came back in wild eyed because a trumper who’d walked in on our conversation and left immediately approached her and pressed a conversation—that she tried to back off from—and cited ‘fake news’ every time she tried to cite her specific arguments with Trump.

It was a little LIVE today.

I’m glad I emboldened/ cajoled her to vote her conscience. She came back in my room three times today, asking and talking about Bern, Warren and policy.

😳🤢So sorry to know how many Trumpies are on my hall.

Leaving it unfinished is the death of healthcare for all. As you just pointed out, politicians and big money will screw it over until it dies. Increments is always the death of a good program, because both red and blue can't help screwing it up.

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1. Although I don't entirely agree with the assertions you are making, there might be some truth to what you are asserting.

2. I would add that regardless of what a president wants to pass into law, the circumstances may prevent that from occurring.

3. If both the House and the Senate don't both pass what the president wants, then all the wishing in the world won't matter.

4. No one knows what the make up of the House and Senate is going to be.

5. The circumstances might only allow incremental changes.

6. If the options are incremental changes or no changes at all, the president will ultimately have to make a choice.

7. If those are the only options available to the president, I would hope that the president would choose to pass incremental changes as appose to no changes at all.

8. On the other hand, if the democrats were to win by large margins in both the House and Senate, then the democratic president might have the option of passing Medicare-for-all into law.

We need Edgar and Lash. They along with Bernie enabled Trump to be elected which gave him four years to dismantle Obama care that took the democrats six years to implement. It also enabled Trump to load the judiciary with religious nuts that don't believe the constitution takes prrsidence over the bible. Pierce and all the other religious nuts are destroying the u s government. Its the Spanish inquisition all over again.

Hillary Clinton and her dirty campaign elevated Donald Trump to the presidency. We’ve got the emails to prove it.

1. Donald Trump getting elected to the White House was clearly one of the most harmful and destructive thing to happen to America over the last 100 or so years.

2. Much of the damage Donald Trump has done to America as well as the rest of the world will probably be long lasting.

3. It will probably take a very very very long time to undo the damage Donald Trump has done to America and the rest of the world.

4. The most important thing is for whoever earns the democratic primary to win the White House in 2020.

Anyone who did not vote democrat is culpable of putting Trump in the White House.

A. That would include anyone who chose not to vote at all.
B. That would also include anyone who voted for a third party candidate.
C. And obviously, that would also include anyone who actually voted for Trump.