Progressives (Liberals)

I actually won't mind if Bernie is president.

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The underlying point is that efforts to give the government exclusive control of the management of social and economic issues, themselves end up in changing the character of the government - and in very undesirable ways.

Except that no one is campaigning to give the government exclusive control of the management of social and economic issues.

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When government controls everything the stakes for power become very high indeed, usually resulting in authoritarian tyranny and pervasive corruption.

You mean as in the Scandinavian countries? See, it's possible to introduce "socialist" measures without the countries turning into the sorts of dictatorships you seem to fear so much.

You are entirely incorrect in your reference to the Scandinavian Countries (Denmark, Norway and Sweden). All enjoy intensely free market capitalist systems, with relatively light regulatory burdens (compared to Germany & France), and all ranked very high in international ranking of countries for ease of doing business. None of these countries has a government-mandated minimum wage.

France , where major corporations are required to have government representations on their governing boards? 

In the 1980 and 1990s the Scandinavian Countries did indeed experiment with some elements of 'Democratic Socialism' (as it is called in Europe) but rather decisively abandoned it starting about 22 years ago due the enervating effects on economic activity and social responsibility that quickly resulted.

Union established minimum wages apply only to the corporations with such union representation, and then only to the traded or job functions specified. Government established minimum wages generally apply to all employment.

You are entirely incorrect in your reference to the Scandinavian Countries (Denmark, Norway and Sweden).

When government controls everything the stakes for power become very high indeed, usually resulting in authoritarian tyranny and pervasive corruption.

You people seem to say, if we can't get instant results with Sanders there's no use trying.

The whole country's government, all three branches plus so many states were overwhelmed by the right-wing.

The ones who say we were in pretty good shape in 2016 must live lives of privilege.

All Trump did was give voice and action to the crazies already in charge.

The whole country's government, all three branches plus so many states were overwhelmed by the right-wing.

In the summer of 2016, Mick Mulvaney promised an experiment of sorts to resolve just what had motivated the Republican Party’s fanatical opposition to Barack Obama. Mulvaney proposed that the answer was not partisanship or racism, but instead principled adherence to the Constitution. The test would come when the president — a man Mulvaney acknowledged to have dangerous instincts and contempt for governing norms — was a Republican.

“We’ve been fighting against an imperial presidency for five and a half years,” he said in June 2016, after Trump had captured the nomination. “Every time we go to the floor and push back against an overreaching president, we get accused of being partisan at best and racist at worst. When we do it against a Republican president, maybe people will see that it was a principled objection in the first place. So we actually welcome that opportunity. It might actually be fun, being a strict-constitutionalist congressman doing battle with a non-strict-constitutionalist Republican president.”

The result of Mulvaney’s experiment could not be more clear. Under Trump, the entire party has abandoned its putative constitutional scruples. Indeed, Mulvaney himself has gone to work for the president whose authoritarian tendencies he once loathed and sat silently by as Trump has abused his power to lash out against his enemies and enrich himself and his family...