Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 06:22 pm
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Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers will reduce gun and ammunition sales and bring in new federal revenue that we can use for both gun violence prevention and enforcement of existing gun laws. Together, we can hold gun manufacturers accountable.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 07:28 pm
@snood,
And sobbing children, with Trump declaring it's a great deterrent. What a great message...Trump is a monster who finds other people's suffering entertaining.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 07:33 pm
@Brand X,
In my opinion, the only thing that will reduce gun sales is effective gun control.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 07:34 pm
@Brand X,
@ewarren wrote:
Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers will reduce gun and ammunition sales and bring in new federal revenue that we can use for both gun violence prevention and enforcement of existing gun laws. Together, we can hold gun manufacturers accountable.

I'm not surprised to hear that Warren wants to violate our civil liberties.

Luckily the NRA stands ready to protect us.
snood
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 08:41 pm
@oralloy,
Why do you spend so much time on this site?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 08:44 pm
@snood,
My guess would be desperation for attention.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 08:48 pm
@glitterbag,
There's that classic leftist focus on personal attacks instead of making an intelligent argument.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 08:50 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Why do you spend so much time on this site?

Because I'm fond of civil liberties.

Although it really doesn't take very much time for me to rattle off a few facts.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:17 pm
I singled out Biden, because of top tier candidates he seems most likely to be an enabler of Republicans, in light of his efforts that helped a Republican retain a senate seat, last year, and his assertions that he and the Republicans can work together, after they have almost never worked with Democrats on anything for years. He has not shown evidence of evolving away from his bad positions in the past, but instead still embraces them. The crime bill, his nostalgia for racists from the days when he worked to thwart integration, coming down for Clarence Thomas against Anita Hill - I believe the Democratic Party would be lucky to survive such a man.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:24 pm
@oralloy,
Sure, let's hear it.

How many gun deaths are there in the United States?
How many gun sales are made without background checks?
Is there a limit on magazine and ammunition sales?
What constitutes an invalid sale?
Is there a nationwide database that prevents sales to persons convicted of felonies?
How about misdemeanor domestic disputes? Or Restraining Orders? Is there a data base that restricts sales to those individuals?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:29 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
...classic leftist...


Why is it whenever you are questioned about something where you are clearly ill-informed, you retreat to the idea that only 'leftists' would question you and your paths of thinking?


glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:44 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

There's that classic leftist focus on personal attacks instead of making an intelligent argument.


That's not an attack, I truly think you are very lonely person with very few friends, possibly a non-existent family life, and if you have a job you likely don't know how to interact well with your co-workers. I can not take any pleasure in your misfortunes, I wish you no ill will. What I will tell you is, I have raised children only boys...but you learn quickly when someone is trying to get attention. It's not your fault, and it not a personal attack to tell you I sense a terrible insecurity in your posts.

You also seem to think that my remark about someones attention needs was to avoid making an 'intelligent argument'. If you were posing a question that I thought required discussion and if it was something I cared about, maybe I would choose to address you (Like I just did here). But I'm only responding because you seem obsessive about attaching falsehoods to my comments. I don't know why you become so obsessed with certain posters and attempt to bait them with 'Breitbart or Info Wars' propaganda. Now if you can just take a deep breath and attach a neutral sounding voice to my post, maybe you won't be so hysterical. What I suspect you are doing is hearing the words in your head something like this:
Your stupid,
No, you are,
am not,
yes you are,
maybe you imagine a braying Sean Hannity type style of conversation.

I'm not here to attack you, it's just that you're repetitive and exhausting and I lose patience. By losing patience, I mean that if I read too many of your repetitive posts I might want to load the shotgun and blow my brains out. But again, patiently, I have said the same thing to my children, my nephews, and many other unruly people when they pluck my last nerve.

All this being said, please understand that I have concern for about you because think you are a very lonely unhappy person...If you were not you wouldn't follow me around reposting my comments with your the stand retorts about "how smart you are" or "liberals want to violate the 2nd amendment for fun" or "you can't point out anything I have ever said that was wrong". Then it goes on and on and on until my eyes have rolled back in my head and I fear they will just pop out of my skull.

Good luck to you, and I really wish you would to try to help max dog who is trying to learn English to craft better sentences. You will do him no favors by pretending his posts are clear just because you don't like me. It's a very unfair thing to do.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:53 pm
@Sturgis,
oralloy wrote:
classic leftist focus


Actually, I wonder additionally, if oralloy means that it is the focus of the classic leftists or a classic focus of leftists.

Subsequent questions would of the definitions of "classic" and "leftist", and the meaning in the composition of these words.

glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 10 Aug, 2019 10:56 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Now you are just being saucy.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 12:48 am
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
Why is it whenever you are questioned about something where you are clearly ill-informed, you retreat to the idea that only 'leftists' would question you and your paths of thinking?

You cannot point out anything that I am wrong about here. Your claim about me being ill-informed is just an ad hominem because you are unable to produce an intelligent argument.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 12:49 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Sure, let's hear it.

The Constitution forbids all gun control that does not comply with Strict Scrutiny.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 12:52 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
That's not an attack,

When you post negative characteristics about someone, whether they are true or not, that is a personal attack.


glitterbag wrote:
You also seem to think that my remark about someones attention needs was to avoid making an 'intelligent argument'.

There was no reason to post a personal attack other than objecting to seeing facts posted while being unable to rebut those facts.


glitterbag wrote:
But I'm only responding because you seem obsessive about attaching falsehoods to my comments.

Again, when you post negative characteristics about someone, whether they are true or not, that is a personal attack.


glitterbag wrote:
I don't know why you become so obsessed with certain posters and attempt to bait them with 'Breitbart or Info Wars' propaganda.

I am not obsessed with anyone, am not trying to bait anyone, and am not posting any propaganda of any kind.


glitterbag wrote:
I'm not here to attack you, it's just that you're repetitive and exhausting and I lose patience. By losing patience, I mean that if I read too many of your repetitive posts I might want to load the shotgun and blow my brains out. But again, patiently, I have said the same thing to my children, my nephews, and many other unruly people when they pluck my last nerve.

If you really don't want to see political arguments, what are you doing in a political thread?

And if seeing facts repeated bothers you, why are you not equally bothered by all of the repeated falsehoods from the left?


glitterbag wrote:
If you were not you wouldn't follow me around reposting my comments with your the stand retorts about "how smart you are" or "liberals want to violate the 2nd amendment for fun" or "you can't point out anything I have ever said that was wrong".

If you don't want to hear about how smart I am, don't start a conversation about my intellect.

If you don't want to be accused of violating people's civil liberties for fun, don't try to violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

If you don't want to have it pointed out that you cannot point out anyplace where I am wrong, don't make empty claims about me supposedly being wrong when you can't back it up.

If you don't want to see my reply to other people when they do these same things, maybe look the other way when other people strike up these kinds of conversations.


glitterbag wrote:
You will do him no favors by pretending his posts are clear just because you don't like me.

I don't care about his language errors. I can tell what he meant to say.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 12:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Actually, I wonder additionally, if oralloy means that it is the focus of the classic leftists or a classic focus of leftists.

The latter.

But really, would it make much difference?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 01:06 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
But really, would it make much difference?
I do think it would, since it would be more than surprising to find more than a handful of classic (combination of nationalism, socialism, democracy and anti-clericalism) leftists in the USA.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 11 Aug, 2019 01:17 am
@oralloy,
Well I tried to explain things, but you are too special. You may have nothing but time to waste seeking attention, I don't find it that important for me.....but perhaps I have a very rich and fulfilling life....and I've gotten more than my fair of attention. One point of order, if someone is telling you the truth after you spread rumors about them.....it's not an attack..
 

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