Progressives (Liberals)

I remember Bernie buying stock in a company because they wouldn’t allow him to speak at a stockholder’s meeting... We all know he flies coach when he doesn’t have to. I’m betting he’s paying for a few things on his own instead of writing it off on the people.

Might be helping family.

The reason I believe his expenditures are in this vein is because of how he’s lived his life.

❤️

Who is John Hagee?

Absolutely NOT.

I'm the guy who thinks through frugality (and good luck, health-wise) most people can hit Sanders age and be millionaires (teachers, police officers, welders, nurses, etc).

I don't fault anyone for earning money legally.



And I'm interested in you answering my question (leave the tarot card **** out of it). What "normal person" spends $18,000 per month? How would you do that every month for decades? Would that say something about your character if you spent that much and didn't save hardly any of it?

Smart take by Greg Sargent
Sargent

Nothing to do with any "****". People constantly project what they want to see onto the world. That's basic human psychology, and that's exactly what you are doing now.

You apparently like saving, and think it's cool. Others don't, and think of it as foolish. What sense does it make to save at 70???

I'm not talking about his saving at age 70 ; I'm talking about his saving at ages 22-66 before he became a millionaire...you know, the time period where he personally made 4.5MM dollars + his wife's significant income and he managed to save barely anything.

He is spending $600 per day, every day, for decades? of his personal money ... he also spends a **** ton of campaign money. Spend spend spend spend spend. This concerns me about him.

...but sure, he knows what it's like to live like a 'normal person'.

Then there is his charitable contributions a paltry 1.5%. I donate >5% of my much more meager income and I'm on a plan to get to 10% in the next 5 years.

So, by your estimate, he made $ 4.5 million in his entire life, and saved only $ 1 million (or half a millio?), and that's not good enough, so he shouldn't be president. Is that it?

HisPorsche is imploding. A treat for me.
——————————

Meanwhile, Biden is delivering a heart-felt eulogy for a segregationist. Taking notes and watching for any great granddaughter sniffing in the receiving line.

I'm saying only what I've said.

His financial disclosure in 2015 said $450,000 IIRC, all of it in his wifes name. Some of it inherited from her family.

This is not an estimate. I've done the math. His salaries dating back to being a mayor of Burlington are all public. For ~40 years he and his wife made, at a minimum the equivalent of $100k per year (his salary in 1981 for example was $38k which is over $100k in 2019 dollars). And at least starting in 2009 he made over $300,000/year. We know that his wife managed a college that went bankrupt for years before that and made $150k/year before that.

The Sanders family has been in the top 5% of the country for decades and they've managed to spend almost all of their money every year (and this is before the recent home purchases).


Normal person Bernie Sanders, spending $18,000 per month like all normal people do.


Spend. Spend. Spend. Spend. Spend. Spend.

Rule #1 is not to trust a big spender with your money. #BigSpenderBernie

Hahaha!! You were all hot for Hillary Clinton in 2016 who spends $18000. on a haircut!!

Hilarious hypocrite! Liar!

Personally, I would trust a person with a good heart, good ideas and coherence of approach over a good saver any day. Financial skills are for bankers.

As I suggested yesterday, the positive responses from the audience at the Sanders/Fox townhall and the proficiency with which Bernie handled the two Fox interviewers would not be the tone in subsequent Fox coverage. And of course it wasn't.
read details here

100% predictable, of course. Fox has a job to do and it is not promoting liberal/progressive values and policies or carrying opinions/data on how current GOP/Trump values and policies are shafting 90% of the population. And as I said yesterday, we don't know what proportion of the audience included Sanders supporters. I think we can further predict that Fox is not going to repeat the form of that townhall or such an apparently open audience because it works against their goals.

But the Dems are right - and the press is right, where it's smart enough - to isolate Fox precisely because it is a propaganda operation.

Cracks in the establishment armor as evidenced by MSM truth-telling on them. Get a load of this:

Former Politico staffer Mike Allen has published, via his new Axios newsletter, a list of what he says are the names of individuals who were being considered for Hillary Clinton Cabinet jobs. Allen may be an ethically challenged shill, but he’s a well-connected one, so the list is probably worth taking seriously. Some highlights (he suggests that the jobs that only have one name next to them had been all but decided on):

Secretary of State: John Podesta, Bill Burns, Joe Biden
Treasury Secretary: Sheryl Sandberg, Lael Brainard
Secretary of Labor: Howard Schultz
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Neera Tanden
Secretary of Commerce: Gregory Meeks, Sheryl Sandberg, Terry McAuliffe

One of the big concerns that many Democrats had about Hillary Clinton was that she felt quite comfortable appealing to the interests of big banks and corporate executives. And while some of the people on the list above are generally known as solid progressives, like Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and Center for American Progress president Neera Tanden, some of them very much are not. Sheryl Sandberg, the COO of Facebook, was Larry Summers’ chief of staff during his infamously bank-friendly and deregulation-tastic tenure in Bill Clinton’s Treasury Department. Howard Schultz is the founder of Starbucks, a company that’s long been hostile to organized labor. And Terry McAuliffe is perhaps the original corporate centrist Democrat.

Thanks in part to figures like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, the role that centrist economic policy has played in exacerbating wealth inequality is one of increasing interest to the Democratic “base.” Nominating figures like Sandberg, Schultz, and McAuliffe to three of the most important economic jobs in the new administration would have created quite a conflict between PEOTUS Clinton and that base.

Of course, Donald Trump is going to be president instead, so neither this nor anything else a Democrat has ever said, thought, or done, currently matters in D.C.

Also of note: Michèle Flournoy* was tipped to become the first female secretary of defense. And, in Allen’s words, the job of running the Environmental Protection Agency was “likely” going to go to “an African American.” Which “African American,” apparently, didn’t really matter. And that is how United States politics work.

*Correction, Jan. 10: This post originally misspelled Michèle Flournoy’s last name.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/hillary-cabinet-plans-leaked-sheryl-sandberg-at-treasury-starbucks-ceo-at-labor.html

The economy is a pretty big part of being president. He'd better have some solid advisers.

I'll let this go, but it's not nothing to me. He should have been able to save a lot more by 2015. I'm not asking him to have saved 50% of his income, but if he'd just saved 10% (which all of us should be doing, and many of us should be doing more) and only spent $16,000 per month, he'd have had almost $10MM in net worth by 2015.

Bernie was right to go in the lions den, and come out the victor. He brought some hearts and minds with him.

That’s how you cut Trump’s support. Frankly, it’s the only way I can think of to cut into Trump’s support.

This was absolutely predictable and it's what happened when Clinton and Bernie did the same song & dance in the last primaries.

You seem to think every body wants to get rich, but it's not necessarily true.

Apparently not.

Some people, like Bernie, prefer to spend almost all of their money (on what? who knows...I'm seriously having a very hard time figuring out how I'd personally spend that much money every single month...have you figured out how you'd do it?) #BigSpenderBernie

Not everybody asks to be our president either, and personally, I think the ones that do, should be trustworthy stewards with our money and I don't see anything in Sanders personal financial life that leads me to feel good about that aspect of him.

I wish I had a financial advisor like you that my husband would accept. We both stink at it.

I think more important than with worrying over the Presidential election, democrats/progressives, should be putting a lot more time, energy, money and thought towards retaking the senate and holding on to the house without which nothing can be done.