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@blatham,

Do you know the difference between corporate greed and corporations?

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ACA was an insurance company's dream. But Sanders would not have dismantled it until Medicare for all became a reality. It was never any Democrat I could name wanting to first kill the one and then try to pass the other.

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@snood,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3elz9yXoAAzdNd.jpg

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Ryan Grim
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@ryangrim
Apr 5
The reluctance of @BernieSanders to just release his damn tax returns is part of a bigger issue https://interc.pt/2CUJ7Rt by me

It's a not good sign.

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@Setanta,

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Australians are required by law to vote. Goddamned Commies!

They are also disarmed. Thy might not have a real choice in the matter.

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@blatham,

Another piece of propaganda . 20% of the people think that way. The MSM gives the impression that is somehow the majority. You are being lied to. Nothing new here, from the MSM and Blatham.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

This is MY argument when you people say Bernie can’t win.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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Ryan Grim
‏Verified account
@ryangrim
Apr 5
The reluctance of @BernieSanders to just release his damn tax returns is part of a bigger issue https://interc.pt/2CUJ7Rt by me
It's a not good sign.

I see no problem,

POLITICS ON LATE NIGHTPublished 1 day ago
Sen. Bernie Sanders says he'll release his tax returns 'very shortly,' urges Trump to do likewise

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How many other candidates have been pressured about taxes the way Sanders has? I can't think of any. Have the others released theirs yet? I doubt it.

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@edgarblythe,

I doubt very seriously at that time Medicare for All could have passed, the insurance companies would have worked overtime killing it, plus, at that time it wasn't popular. Obamacare was thought of as a socialist program by all republicans and some democrats voters which is why it had such an uphill battle getting republican or right leaning democrats governors to sign on for expanded Medicare. Moreover, the courts struck down some of the provisions which would have helped make it pay for itself. Obama was sort of busy trying to get us out of a recession. Lastly, it is a myth Obama had a two year window with the power of congress behind him to help the financial mess that George Bush had left him. He needed a supermajority or else the republicans would and did obstruct anything he did. In fact, it was a plan McDonald was proud of. He did not have a supermajority for very long.

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@edgarblythe,

A couple of weeks ago hightor left a link of one of them already providing quite a few years of tax returns.

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@revelette1,

I think it was for about 4 months in total.

What Obama and Pelosi and Reid were able to get done was amazing given the political climate.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

How many other candidates have been pressured about taxes the way Sanders has?

Trump was. We see how that turned out.

Be like Trump, or be like ever other presidential candidate in recent memory.

Hmm.... not a great Venn diagram for ole Bernie.

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@maporsche,

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President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda.

He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken’s election in Minnesota and he didn’t get seated for seven months.

The President’s cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties.

That gave the President 59 votes — still a vote shy of the super majority.
But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission.

So while the President’s number on paper was 59 Senators — he was really working with just 58 Senators.

Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 — but only in theory, because Senator Byrd was still out.

In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy’s seat in September.

Any pretense of a supermajority ended on February 4, 2010 when

Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869

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@DrewDad,

I heard him on the Daily Show podcast just this week saying that on April 15th he’d release 2018 taxes and the 9 years preceding that.

Guess we’ll see.

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@edgarblythe,

Your distortions are wonderful, you should be a politician. I said that Sanders did not vote for the ACA extension because he was in full campaign mode and wanted to tout his medicare for all.

This Saint Bernie of the Immaculate Conception sh*t is really tedious. He's a politician, for Dog's sake, and a successful politician. That means he has his eye on the main chance . . .

all

the

time.

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@edgarblythe,

I think at least 6 of them have. I think I read that in a link that was posted.

Though Bernie didn’t release them in 2015/16 either, or at least nothing more than a single year.

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@Setanta,

He didn't support it that way, but is not advocating killing it first before starting up Medicare for all. Nothing I said distorts any facts. The real distortion is people who don't support him can't help smearing his image instead of looking honestly at the situation.

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@revelette1,

I concede that he might not have been able to force it through. I am not in the business of having to be correct on every point.

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@edgarblythe,

Bullshit, that's bullshit--I am looking at him realistically. He's a successful politician, and you treat him as though he were a messiah.

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