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@blatham,

Biden, as with most of the spate of candidates, is likely a trojan horse. With dozens of candidates to choose from, they pool the delegates to select the mainstream candidate they feel did the best in the primaries.

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@edgarblythe,

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@blatham,
Biden, as with most of the spate of candidates, is likely a trojan horse. With dozens of candidates to choose from, they pool the delegates to select the mainstream candidate they feel did the best in the primaries.

You seem to have and maintain notions about an evil core at the center of the Dem party. I don't believe that is so, in the manner you seem to see it. That said, I do believe that both parties are far too dependent up wealthy corporate influences. In fact, I believe this is so in most western nations simply as a consequence of the power wielded by such corporate interests. I think it, or something just like it, is the fundamental battle in any human society - those who wish to control others and those who wish to not be controlled.

But I'm hoping that you'll consider how your present position works in aid of the really bad guys. I've always liked Bernie but he's not the only white hat in town. (Also, I really want a woman to break through and achieve the presidency).

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@coldjoint,

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It will be good for Trump. I would concentrate on 2024, Trump cannot win that election.

My advice to the Democrats is to just cut their losses for the next 17 years and focus on trying to win back the White House in 2036.

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And may I say to the following quote from Warren, absofuckinglutely.

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For generations, the filibuster was used as a tool to block progress on racial justice. And in recent years, it’s been used by the far right as a tool to block progress on everything.

I’ve only served one term in the Senate — but I’ve seen what’s happening. We all saw what they did to President Obama. I’ve watched Republicans abuse the rules when they’re out of power, then turn around and blow off the rules when they’re in power.

We saw it happen again just this week. Republicans spent years — years — exploiting the rules to slow down or block President Obama’s mainstream judges and executive nominees. But now that they’re in power, they’re unilaterally changing those rules to speed them up and ram through President Trump’s extremist nominees.

So let me be as clear as I can about this. When Democrats next have power, we should be bold: We are done with two sets of rules — one for the Republicans and one for the Democrats.

And that means when Democrats have the White House again, if Mitch McConnell tries to do what he did to President Obama, and puts small-minded partisanship ahead of solving the massive problems in this country, then we should get rid of the filibuster.

WP

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@blatham,

The war can't be won by doing the same thing and failing repeatedly, in the hope it will after all work. It takes the kind of backbone and tough stands that built the original unions. The DNCC is a chugging steam engine in a field of diesels, that can't grant the right to pass. When in the course of human events, as they say -

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@blatham,

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We saw it happen again just this week. Republicans spent years -- years -- exploiting the rules to slow down or block President Obama's mainstream judges and executive nominees. But now that they're in power, they're unilaterally changing those rules to speed them up and ram through President Trump's extremist nominees.

That was justified payback for what the Democrats did to Bush 43.

If the Democrats don't want to keep losing fights maybe they should stop starting fights.

Or would that make too much sense?

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I like this woman more and more all the time

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Rep. Ocasio-Cortez: "I'm proud to be a bartender. Ain't nothing wrong that. There's nothing wrong with working retail...There is nothing wrong with preparing that your neighbors will eat."

"There is nothing wrong with being a working person in the United States of America."

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@blatham,

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I like this woman more and more all the time

You should, she is a fake too.

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@blatham,

I wish we could bend the rules and elect her.

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@edgarblythe,

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I wish we could bend the rules and elect her.

Pretty damned easy to see why the right wing media machine is doing everything it can to defame her. If anyone in the pro-Bernie world set to attacking her, I'll trust you to cut to ribbons. I'll handle my end.

I wouldn't push her to a candidacy yet. She really is too inexperienced at this point. But up the road, she might very well be the stand-out candidate. I think she will be that. Seeing someone like her arise helps restore my faith in humans.

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@blatham,

Bush and Trump proved you don't need education, experience or intelligence to be president. No way she could eff it up like them.

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@edgarblythe,

I don't think we want to aspire only to do less damage than those two. She has already expressed disdain for the extremes of this celebrity thing the media is pushing. She's not evil and she's not a fairy princes. She's got work to do and clearly knows that. She won't run. She's smart enough to know she's not ready. Says I.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

If anyone in the pro-Bernie world set to attacking her, I'll trust you to cut to ribbons.

Make sure you know the difference between ‘attacking’ and pointing out disagreement with some of her statements or actions.

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Touting a particular candidate is understandable. Attacking other candidates from the Democratic Party is inexcusable. It is also suspect.

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@Setanta,

Only for archaic tribalists.

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Vote down my posts, and I'll vote down yours, clown.

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The Democratic "tribe" needs to win this one. Carpet baggers like Sanders, with the bullsh*t pie in the sky agenda, need to go.

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@Setanta,

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The Democratic "tribe" needs to win this one.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

I don't think we want to aspire only to do less damage than those two. She has already expressed disdain for the extremes of this celebrity thing the media is pushing. She's not evil and she's not a fairy princes. She's got work to do and clearly knows that. She won't run. She's smart enough to know she's not ready. Says I.

I meant that facetiously. Except the part about Bush and Trump being stupid.

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Merely beating Trump will not be enough. Obama was a bump in the pavement of the road to hell, because he did nothing a liberal would have done. Another like him in office is meaningless, because the status quo he/she would seek to hold is sliding to the far right at too fast a pace to be meaningful. Bernie is the best example of a candidate unafraid to stand up for us.

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