blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes, I saw that. It's what prompted me to do a bit of research and write the post. It's not often we get a chance to watch a propaganda operation form up like this. It looks pretty ad hoc as the footprints of those involved are quickly ascertainable. The Tea Party operation was much more sophisticated.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:21 am
@blatham,
It really is kind of fascinating. It's the same AstroTurf phenomenon we saw in the #WalkAway scam that the Trumptrolls were pushing on here a few months ago.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:35 am
@hightor,
People really do vote against the Democratic Party over their misdeeds.

With only a single exception (a sole candidate who did something that I really liked), I've voted a straight Republican ticket in every election since 2008 for example.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:45 am
@hightor,
Indeed. It serves as a primer on how these sort of propaganda programs are designed and forwarded. And as consumers of information, it's important to understand this stuff.

I'm actually a bit surprised that Ballabon, given his past and his PR/media experience, has done something this shoddy. When it is done "right", the front group is set up in such a way that it's sources and funding etc are invisible. Edward Bernays was doing this in the 30s with amazing deftness.

Often, as in the famous case of Kuwati propaganda campaign at the outset of the Iraq/Kuwait war, huge, well funded American PR firms like Hill and Knowlton are the designers See here When that misinformation campaign emerged in the press, I believed it as I'm sure was true for 90% - 99% of news watchers. Even Amnesty International got tricked. It wasn't until the end of the war that the truth came out.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:50 am
@oralloy,
And I know lifelong Republicans who deserted the GOP because of the Iraq war. Isn't anecdotal evidence great?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:55 am
@hightor,
It is reasonable for Republicans to jump on the fact that leftists are neonazis, and to try to coax people (Jewish or otherwise) to turn against the left because of this fact.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 08:57 am
I should add to the above post on "Jexodus" that Liz Cheney is using this story to fund raise off the GOP base. Of course she is.

Watch this woman. She wants to be in the WH and her father wants her there too. Following the debacle of the Bush administration and the crash of Cheney's reputation (for a lot of reasons) she would not have been a viable candidate. I doubt that is still true. And she'd be formidable. And a complete ******* disaster. Democracy isn't a system preferred by that family. But pretending democracy works just fine.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 09:27 am
There have been a lot of claims made by Lash and by others that the mainstream media attacked Sanders and at the same time lauded Clinton. This was a narrative favorable to Sanders' supporters, to the right wing anxious to denigrate Hillary and to the Russians who wanted Trump in instead of Hillary.

Quote:
The analysis in Network Propaganda does not, however, exonerate mainstream journalism from all that has gone wrong in the media. In 2016, Benkler and his colleagues argue, the right was able to “harness” the press to its cause because of journalists’ preoccupation with “balance” and eagerness for scoops. They note that the press had an institutional problem: How would it maintain balance if reporters did hard-hitting stories about Trump?
Borrowing from a study by Thomas E. Patterson, they conclude that the solution was to run equally hard-hitting stories about Hillary Clinton. Journalists “performed” neutrality with harshly negative coverage of both candidates. In fact, according to Patterson’s analysis, negative coverage of Clinton outpaced positive coverage 62 percent to 38 percent, while coverage of Trump was 56 percent negative to 44 percent positive.


The interest of mainstream journalists in balance created a market for scoops about Clinton that the right was able to help satisfy. A clear instance of this pattern is the coverage of the Clinton Foundation. The Times entered into an arrangement that gave it advance access to Clinton Cash, a book by a Breitbart editor, Peter Schweizer, sponsored by a project founded by Schweizer and Steve Bannon and funded by Robert Mercer. The resulting Times article insinuated that in exchange for money for the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton had enabled a Russian firm to acquire control of American uranium assets, even though the Times had no evidence that she had intervened in the decision to approve the deal, which a committee representing nine government agencies had made. The Times article and other overwrought and often misleading pieces in the mainstream press about the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton and DNC e-mails became some of the most widely shared news items in 2016, thus helping the Republican effort to depict Clinton and the Democrats as corrupt.
NYRB
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 09:46 am
@blatham,
https://youtu.be/cjuGCJJUGsg
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 09:55 am
@maporsche,
Brilliant. He's a smart and funny guy. In an appearance with Seinfeld in comedians in cars, he made very smart observation. He noted that "all men think they are funny". And it's true. Check with the women in your life.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 09:57 am
There'll be a sizable American right wing contingent saying something very similar, guaranteed. Tucker Carlson might lead their charge unless Limbaugh gets there first.
Quote:
After at least 49 people were killed in a targeted attack on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, on Friday, a far-right Australian senator blamed the violent act on Muslim immigration.

Sen. Fraser Anning from Queensland put out a statement ostensibly condemning the attacks — but then seized the opportunity to spew incendiary and Islamophobic remarks that echoed the rhetoric of the suspected gunman’s manifesto.

“I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman,” Anning said. “However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand of the increasing Muslim presence.”

The senator claimed “left-wing politicians and media” would blame gun laws and nationalist views, but “the real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.”

Vox
thack45
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 12:19 pm
Well things just got a little more complicated for those who have been trashing the wacky far left types for tearing the dem party apart. Will they demand that the ladies similarly fall in line?

'Not one woman got that kind of coverage’: Beto backlash begins
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 12:27 pm
@blatham,
Fraser Anning, that's the senator who wants the final solution ...
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 01:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Fraser Anning, that's the senator who wants the final solution ...
How ironic that he'll achieve this goal only through his own death.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 01:14 pm
@thack45,
Quote:
“I feel like the media is always captivated by the person they seem to think is a phenom: Bernie. Trump. Beto. But they always seem to be white men who are phenoms. In a year where we have more choices than ever, more women and more persons of color than ever, none of them seem to be deemed a phenom,” said Mary Anne Marsh, a Democratic political consultant.

I am convinced, absolutely, that this is so. And the only explanation I can come up with that makes sense here is cultural sexism (likely driven by mechanisms that are difficult to see).
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 01:38 pm
Quote:
In a year where we have more choices than ever, more women and more persons of color than ever, none of them seem to be deemed a phenom...

I think this is simplistic.

Ms. AO-C, while not running for president, is about the biggest 'phenom' I've seen in a while, pretty much sucking all the oxygen out of the room. Just because a person is dark-skinned or female doesn't mean they automatically assume 'phenomhood'. O'Rourke got a lot of attention when he ran against Cruz and there was genuine interest in whether he'd decide to run. (It's not as if he's been anointed — he could sink like a stone) Bernie pretty much kicked off the whole movement for Democratic Socialism and has legions of supporters. And, for god's sake, Trump is the ******* president, and beating Clinton was phenomenal. There's plenty of time for dark-skinned and/or female candidates to rise to the top — if they generate interest and excitement. We shouldn't look at media attention as the sole indicator of a candidate's potential but we shouldn't be surprised that certain candidates are covered differently and we ought to be able to handle that without it inciting criticism or envy.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 01:47 pm
Shocking! What a turn of events! Who would have dreamed?!

Quote:
Trump changes direction, says there ‘should be no Mueller Report’
Donald Trump has thrown plenty of tantrums, online and off. The president has lashed out at Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation; he’s condemned the probe as “illegal”; and he’s accused Democrats of being guilty of the transgressions he’s been accused of. So the fact that Trump did all of these same things in a series of tweets this morning wouldn’t ordinarily be of any real interest.

Except, this time, the Republican, perhaps feeling some anxiety about what’s to come, went just a little further than he has before.

Quote:
“So, if there was knowingly & acknowledged to be ‘zero’ crime when the Special Counsel was appointed, and if the appointment was made based on the Fake Dossier (paid for by Crooked Hillary) and now disgraced Andrew McCabe (he & all stated no crime), then the Special Counsel should never have been appointed and there should be no Mueller Report.

“This was an illegal & conflicted investigation in search of a crime. Russian Collusion was nothing more than an excuse by the Democrats for losing an Election that they thought they were going to win. THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO A PRESIDENT AGAIN!”
Benen
As I've suggested before, these people need to be crushed electorally. The levels of corruption and the continued near universal support of this administration by Republican politicos and GOP supporters down the line is the key indicator of how bad things are.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 02:03 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
The levels of corruption

In Obama's weaponized law enforcement and intelligence agencies is the real corruption, and it is being exposed bit by bit.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 02:33 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
“I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman,” Anning said. “However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand of the increasing Muslim presence.


In a word, disgust.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 02:49 pm
@hightor,
This is sensible. As you say, AOC was the It Girl this year, and although Ilhan Omar has been attacked by the establishment democrats, she’s being lauded with high praise by progressives. The problem with Kamala Harris is her record!! And I’m thrilled people are beginning to vote their interests rather than color or sex.

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