blatham
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:43 am
@revelette1,
It probably was a little bit snarky but that's not a quality my posts of free from (particularly posts about george).
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:44 am
@revelette1,
revelette wrote:
What I am getting at is you have a habit of throwing out these kind of snarky little labels or judgments without saying how you arrived at your conclusions which led you to make those labels of whoever you are talking about. It's usually in the midst of other non provoking if kind of lofty words. Even you saying he was a follower of (forget the name) some democrat, you said he was a "conservative" democrat which to Edward, would be off putting to say the least.
His name was Norm Dicks and that was my intent. Inslee was always very adaptable to the forces around him.

My strong impression is that thrown out "snarky little labels or judgments" are quite common here on A2k and also among many of your posts. I don't fault you for your opinions, or for expressing them. I accurately expressed my opinions, which were formed in a lot of direct contact over a several year period.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:45 am
@revelette1,
I’ll send you a PM.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:49 am
@georgeob1,
Yes throwing out snarky little labels are quite common, but there is usually something preceding it for an example or something. Not just saying, "Hey I knew Biden about (for an example) twenty years ago and he was a real dunce. "
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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:50 am
@glitterbag,
Okay, now I'm a bit nervous I am wrong somewhere. (just kidding and wouldn't be the first time anyway..)
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:52 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

I am still curious why he considered him a lightweight intellectual and if he considers Trump, I don't know, middleweight intellectual in comparison. I mean, that's a pretty big judgment call about a candidate for President. I personally find it snarky.


I have never described Trump as an intellectual. I believe he is very clever and shares political & economic beliefs somewhat similar to my own (certainly much more so than his opponents - who were my alternatives in the election).

In the case of Inslee I found him to be remarkably uncurious and unaware of the limits of his own knowledge, but very sensitive to the direction in which the winds about him were blowing. These are qualities I have found, through a good deal of experience, to be reliable indicators of poor performance in positions of responsibility
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:57 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

It probably was a little bit snarky but that's not a quality my posts of free from (particularly posts about george).


Well accurate self appraisal is indeed an important element of wisdom.

We're both occasionally snarky. That's OK by me.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:57 am
@georgeob1,
So would you consider Inslee clever but does not share your political beliefs along with those other qualities you mentioned? Because we all know Trump is uncurious and unaware of his own limitations of his knowledge. He won't even read to get to some knowledge.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:11 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

So would you consider Inslee clever but does not share your political beliefs along with those other qualities you mentioned? Because we all know Trump is uncurious and unaware of his own limitations of his knowledge. He won't even read to get to some knowledge.


I didn't find him particularly clever either, and I believe that if you examine some of the initiatives he has championed as governor, you might come to a similar conclusion.

We all must choose among the alternatives available to us in life. Indeed it is true that my perception of Trump's political & economic beliefs is an important factor for me. He is certainly given to overstatement, which often leads his critics to accuse him of blissful ignorance. However, I find his opponents to be far more proficient at that, though comforted in their beliefs by a strange, but unfounded, concept of their unique and elite sagacity.

Anyway, I appreciate your candor and willingness to discuss the matter without the usual epithets and harping. I have tried to reciprocate.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:14 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Okay, now I'm a bit nervous I am wrong somewhere. (just kidding and wouldn't be the first time anyway..)


That is a hallmark of wisdom.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:15 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
We're both occasionally snarky. That's OK by me.
I'm a fan of quality snark. One of the best political writers of my lifetime was Hunter Thompson and his body of work is a huge snark-fest (his letters are even better). At its best, it is light-hearted and with no more than a smidgeon or two of cruel intent.

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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:26 pm
Lying or stupid? It's very hard to tell with these people.
Quote:
Fox's Stuart Varney: "I think the Green New Deal is a Trojan horse. It's a vehicle that allows the socialists to take control of the economy"
I suppose his analogy would make some sort of sense if the horse the Greeks built had been wheeled up to the front door by those Greeks at midday and if it was covered with bright posters saying things like, "Trojans are stupid jerkoffs and they're fat" or "Pull this into your city immediately" or "Forget about the big door at the bottom".

The GND document is the opposite of secretive. It's explicit at least so far as an aspirational plan might be.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:31 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Lying or stupid? It's very hard to tell with these people.

You have the same problems. I will go with liar first, with stupid enough to think people are listening to you.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:35 pm
Quote:
Fox News: Where a historical documentary can’t run an ad warning about the dangers of fascism because it contains “disgraceful Nazi imagery,” but host Laura Ingraham can show graphics comparing Planned Parenthood to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler with impunity.
MM And here's the screen capture

https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2019/02/28/Capture_(2).png

Just bumped into a wonderful anecdote. Jane Mayer had been in a relationship with a lawyer but while away on assignment in Afghanistan covering the war, that lawyer took up with Ingraham. When Mayer returned, she was told by ex that he and Ingraham were going to keep Mayer's dog. So one day, Mayer (who is petite) went in through the doggie door and liberated her dog. Not that I needed any further reason to love this woman.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:44 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
For some time, the right has been raising the alarm that demographic changes may be leading to a society/nation where whites are no longer the majority. And that is perceived as a great risk to America's very survival as a democratic nation seeking liberty.
And one can sympathize with such a viewpoint. Because, obviously, the only group that should be allowed to hold demographic superiority is white people.
The only people that I ever hear this from are leftists.

They are always disappointed that I'm not actually alarmed.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:00 pm
@georgeob1,
Well, after all this I have to confess I don't know beans about him other than what I read this morning. I am all in for his Climate stuff he was talking about, other than that, not sure of him, never heard of him before. Speaking of beans, got some lentil on the crock pot...been online too long. Making up for lost time I guess.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:12 pm
Andy Borowitz
·
Claiming He Misspoke, Biden Calls Pence An Egregious Asshole
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
·
Quote:
Claiming He Misspoke, Biden Calls Pence An Egregious Asshole

Biden worked for an egregious asshole for 8 years.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:34 pm
Watching Jeopardy today, the final question was, which year was the last time before 2016 that the winner of the presidency had never before won a public election? The contestants were the cream of Jeopardy, playing as teams for a million dollars. They all got it wrong, but yours truly knew the correct answer. Drunk
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:38 pm
@edgarblythe,
Andy Borowitz makes me laugh.
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