Progressives (Liberals)

I will not eat them in a car, or in a plane.
A train a train a train a train: would you could you on a train?

Source? Link? Something? Anything?

Incorrect

Disgraceful, lol

Holy crap. I knew nothing about this incident. Or perhaps I don't remember, it being the late 60s and all.

For those who seem to believe that Rep Ilhan Omar did an unforgivable anti-Semitic speech act...

Let's recall this illustration tweeted by Trump - a Star of David on a pile of money.

It's been solved already. Wall off the Palestinians and forget them.

What problem? I perceive no problem.

Let's recall this

If you are asking about the USS Liberty, I agree with George's description. Its still a sore subject with a lot of the Military Intel collectors from that time. North Korea seized the USS Pueblo about a year or so later. Also something that tends to piss off retired civilian and military intelligence analysts.

Yes, that was my reference. I think it likely I did know some part of that story earlier but recollections no longer available. My brain is broken. Marijuana and craft beer are splints.

Let me add, I've had life that I normally think fortunate and rich. But I do envy you and george for the experiences you've had moving about the world and responding well to varied cultures and the people you've dealt with in your professional capacities. It's one of the reasons I like you two, though you way way way more.

thank you Bernie 😎


In your face George, 😘

Sorry guys but I think my post wad more accurate than yours. The isralies tried to sink the liberty and kill all 200+ u s sailors but only quit their attack when they realized the radioman had contacted the other navy units in the area. The isralies are only our friends if it is to their advantage. They would have happily killed all 200 sailors if they could have.

I didn't read your earlier post, so I can only speak from personal experience. The Israelis attacked after a number of recce flights, I absolutely believe it was intentional and frankly, it would have been easier for them to deny a complete destruction of the ship as a whoops, we didn't recognize you. I don't know what else I can say, The Israelies have an aggressive spying effort against the US, they have tried to co-opt Military members and civilian members of DOD. Think Jonathan Pollard.

All of the 5 eye countries have an agreement, but the Brits would charge a US person of spying and we would charge a GB citizen with spying if they attempted to acquire Intel the country had gathered without advance and proper agreement. The Intel agreements have been hammered out over the years ever since at least the end of WWII...every so often they are renegotiated, but I don't think it's ever been a drastic reconfiguration.

I am not certain of the source of your above post. There appear to be some inaccuracies in your above post.
Here is an article I found that may prove to be more accurate regarding the details of the agreement:


U.S. lawmakers reach tentative deal to avoid government shutdown.

Published February 11, 2019

WASHINGTON, Feb 11 (Reuters) - U.S. congressional negotiators said on Monday they reached a tentative deal on border security funding to avert another partial government shutdown due to start on Saturday, but an aide said it did not include the $5.7 billion President Donald Trump wants for a border wall.

"We reached an agreement in principle" on funding border security programs through Sept. 30, Republican Senator Richard Shelby told reporters.

"Our staffs are going to be working feverishly to put all the particulars together,” Shelby said. He did not say whether Trump would get any money for the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

It was not clear if Trump would embrace the agreement. His December demand for $5.7 billion to help pay for the wall - rejected by congressional Democrats - triggered a 35-day partial government shutdown that ended last month without him getting wall funding.

A congressional aide, who asked not to be identified, said the outline of the deal included $1.37 billion for erecting new (fencing) along the southern border.

That is about the same amount Congress allocated over the past couple years and far below what Trump has demanded.

The aide said (none) of the money would be for a "(wall)," which Trump has been touting since he launched his campaign for president in 2016.

Democrats say the wall would be costly and ineffective.

Trump was holding a rally in the border city of El Paso, Texas, on Monday night to argue for the wall he says can protect Americans from violent criminals, drugs and a "tremendous onslaught" of migrant caravans.

Trump said he heard about the progress in the talks just before he took the stage in El Paso, but he did not discuss details. "Just so you know - we're building the wall anyway," he said. "Maybe progress has been made - maybe not."

DETENTION BEDS

Under Monday's agreement, which must be fleshed out by congressional staff experts, Democrats would gave up on a demand they floated on Friday night to cap the number of immigrant detention beds in the interior of the United States.

Democrats had complained that the Trump administration was increasing detention capacity as a way of speeding up deportations of illegal immigrants, some of whom were seeking asylum under U.S. law.

But an overall cap - on borders and in the interior - would remain at 40,520 beds. The aide said that despite that cap, the number had actually grown to 49,057 and that under the deal, it would be brought down to the legal cap.

Democratic Representative Nita Lowey said on Monday night: "I hope by Wednesday we'll have a finished product." Lowey said she had been in touch with House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who she said "has confidence I have made the right decision."

Trump agreed to reopen the government last month for three weeks to allow congressional negotiators time to find a compromise on government funding for the rest of the fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, to avert another shutdown.

In Washington, the small group of lawmakers leading the negotiations met for about two hours on Monday. They said they wanted to seal a plan by Monday night to allow time for the legislation to pass the House and Senate and get Trump's signature by Friday, when funding is due to expire for the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and several other federal agencies.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-lawmakers-optimistic-reaching-border-010957541.html

How do they know?

It could have been an honest mistake. All of the signs that it was an American ship could have been a ruse by the Egyptians for all Israel knew.

That's not to say that it wasn't deliberate. But I don't see any proof that it was deliberate.

That is incorrect. Israel was reacting defensively to Arab aggression.

You're wrong about the first paragraph...we do know.

Second Paragraph, you're right Israel caught them with their hand in the cookie jar and vanquished them in 7 days.

How do we know?

Nope, they fired the first shot in actual fact. And according to George, they attacked the Liberty possibly because they wanted to hide their intention to strike first.