Where Are the Christians Now? | Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II

But i did'nt evolve with the apes. maybe you, but not me.

You may be onto something there.

Chai evolved.

Sad that you were left behind.

Maybe.

I’ve always found it odd that some people have such an issue with the thought of being related in some way to apes.

They have no problem with acknowledging they are of the same species as humans who abuse and rape their own children, murder their own kind for some money in a cash register, or are Kim Kardashian.

To get back to the point, the word cult did not derive from the word culture. The 2 words came from a common source, and don’t mean the same thing. No more than a human came from an ape, but rather a common ancestor. We are different animals.

again, i am not a specie. I am not an animal. Or even an animal with greater intelligence. they serve as food to me.
Believe me, beliefs can be very wierd to logical people.

father forgive them, for they know not what they do. If jesus said that to those who crucified him, he would certainly repeat that to rapers. I blame no one.

What a disgusting scarp of putrid human gristle.

Using your own point of view - if people don't understand you...it's because you are not open, and because you are inconsitent. You do not answer any questions regarding perceived flaws in your beliefs. And your posts contain inconsistent points of view. And the vast majority of our actions are guided by our beliefs and emotions, and knowledge is only based in consistency.... How then is it possible to know you?

That said, it is certainly possible to know when you are avoiding things.

You still haven't replied to any flaw pointed out in the specific beliefs talked about.

I doubt very much that you would end up there. After all, it is only people who believe in him that will:
- you do not believe that God is consistent...because you hold beliefs you think are God given, but are inconsistent, and flawed
- you do not believe in using all of the brain he created for you (you refuse to use the logic / reasoning part of your brain)
- you do not believe in nurturing the emotions that he gave you
- you do not appear believe that the instincts he gave you (sexual attraction) are good (I can take multiple quotes from your posts inferring such)

It appears that every part of his major creation within you - your brain - giving you the ability of consciousness...you refuse to use...refuse to see as good...you spit on them.

It's always possible you would see such as a badge of honour. Some cults would be like that.

alright. I guess i have spoken enough. Let me give answers to my flaws.
.My emotions are a gauge, not a guide.

.Modesty is'nt about hiding ourselfs, its about revealing our dignity.
.Beauty and modesty is for the women so that men can love for the right reasons.
Read Ezek 16:30.

on my stand on blaming no one, Rom 2:1 ans ''you therefore, have no excuse you who pass JUDGMENT to SOMEONE ELSE , for whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself.''
Gal 6:5'' for we are EACH responsible for our own conduct''
jesus qouted ''forgive the for they know not what they do''
he would certainly say that to the rapist. because that rapist doesnt know what he is doing.
if you were not a christian you would call jesus names---not because you are actually right , but because satan has blinded you. but i am sure vikorr you know jesus, and you simply wouldnt say that.

Well, other than still not having provided any responses to the flaws I pointed out…


You’ve said numerous times you are emotionless. Your inconsistency in this area paints a picture of confusion

That’s rather condescending towards men. It makes the presumption that they can’t see past the dress of a women to the person inside.

And it hardly gives you the right to be so judgemental about women who don’t meet your standard of modesty. Before you say you haven't been judgemental, you need to go back and re-read everything you've written.


Bible quotes are well and good, but true godliness involves a deep understanding of why those quotes were written, does it not? What is the consistency behind them? Are you not able to articulate the reasons for yourself? If you don't understand the deep reasoning, then you leave yourself open to working counter to the quotes intended outcomes.

I should correct something for you. I like the idea of God, and I consider myself spiritual, but I do not subscribe to the religious ideology that surrounds him/her, not in the Bible which I am very familiar with, nor in other documents. I would say my understanding of God, and yours, are quite different.

jesus is not an idea made to create comfort. Jesus was not a wise man who walked the earth. He did not come to invent a religion.
If you are this rational. Then you should'nt be called a christian.
Christains do not walk by sight. And absolutely its a very unhealthy thing to do---in a logical sense. The sense of perception.
Christianity does not take a perspective. Does not count other religion equal.
Christianity claims jesus to be the way, the truth and the life.

If you searched the scriptures yourself, you would see how decieving those popes and most preachers are.
.Christianity does not offer peace with the world.
If you dont believe this, is certain you have been hearing sermons not saughting the scriptures for your self.
The idea of believing on the existence of a God, does'nt make you a christian. Even the Athens wrote ''to the unknown God'' but they certainly would stone you if you preach jesus christ.

And maybe you are right. I wont clog your beliefs with a war hammer.
This ends it.

You appear to think there are ulterior motives for my posts - certainly you never reply to their specific words. They are as they are. You have been evasive for our whole conversation, avoiding responding to any flaw I pointed out (and there have been so many). This is not honest. It is certainly not Godly. It is self deception. And you know who the cause of self deception is.

Is it any wonder you beliefs regarding rape are so corrupted?

There will be many on the day of judgement who cried out Lord, Lord. Will there not?

so many flaws you cannot be able to list one as an example?
i did'nt write the bible did i? if you need scriptural references i could send them to you. And proove to me that i am wrong with the ''scriptures'' since we are both christians.
but if not, i want let you know i didnt come up with any of what i wrote. You can call the bible a flawed book as you re the first christian to be up against modesty and self control.

Blaming victims for being raped while dismissing the guilt of the rapists with some old bollocks about not judging is a colossal flaw that pretty much eclipses everything else you say.