Fetishes; to what extent are they healthy?

I just can't fathom the thought of some one that has done no wrong deserving death just for committing the crime of existence. I know this is how many people see paedophiles, and I just don't understand it. I have no qualms with death, I wouldn't even mind death penalty if it accomplished more than just getting the criminals off the street. But these guys that I've talked to have done nothing, hurt no one, yet are looked upon as the worst kind of people.

Moments like this make me feel like a young, naive, idealist. When you think about this you realize just how unfair life can be. People with cancer or AIDS really don't know how good they have it compared to others; I know I would rather have HIV than be a paedophile.

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Eryemil wrote:

People with cancer or AIDS really don't know how good they have it compared to others; I know I would rather have HIV than be a paedophile.

Why? People with AIDS have a huge stigma attached to them. They must have done something bad to get it. Homosexuality, drug use....they must have deserved it....

I think that people forget that AIDS isn't always transmitted by "bad behavior" but sometimes through a mother or an unfaithful spouse...

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You'd rather be a paedophile?

These people are screwed for life, no way to change that. I am sorry but I would prefer to live a few years in relative peace than an entire lifetime lusting after preteen kids.

If there is no way to help them, what in your opinion should be done about them? (the ones that do rape children and the ones that don't both)

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Eryemil wrote:

You'd rather be a paedophile?

These people are screwed for life, no way to change that. I am sorry but I would prefer to live a few years in relative peace than an entire lifetime lusting after preteen kids.

If there is no way to help them, what in your opinion should be done about them? (the ones that do rape children and the ones that don't both)

the ones that don't act, should be left alone. The ones who do, should be locked up for life. No questions asked. (Just for reference, I feel that anyone who voluntarily murders someone or rapes someone, adult or child, should be locked away with no chance of parole. Ever.)

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Eryemil wrote:

You'd rather be a paedophile?

I'd rather not have AIDS, cancer or be a pedophile.

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as for your statement about being more compassionate twords child molesters, I think i understand where you are coming from. Correct me if I am wrong , but you dont mean to wrap your arms around them and love them right? You mean offering more help for those who recognize the problem and ask for help BEFORE they loose control? Maybe offering counceling , even drug therapies so that they dont have to wait until after they have committed the crime before they get help? Is that what you mean?

People with AIDS have no peace. There is no silence in thier lives. I cant say wich would be the easier label to live with. Aids makes everyone react to you like you are a walking time bomb. People stillthink that just being in the room with someone who has aids will give them aids and they go out of thier way to avoid you. Doctors, nurses , and other medical staff even treat you like you are a disgusting piece of crap. ( I have seen this more often then not.) Those who do know you and know you have aids dont treat you the same either. All of a sudden they treat you like you can not take care of yourself.All thier conversations with you are about how you are feeling, what is wrong, are you ready for death etc...Though that may not be as bad as being labled a child molester, that action rips apart any and all peace you thought you had. It is exhausting.
Granted, I see where you are coming from with the comparison, but aids and child molesters dont really have alot in common. It is hard to imagine having either label on you.
In my very humble opinion Laughing

I would kill a child molester just for existing. Sorry.. but I would. There is no way to right the wrong of molesting a child. That child now has to live with thier own death of person for the rest of thier lives. Jail is no substitute or equal punishment for that.

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I'll be back when you guys get done with the pedophile talk.

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as for your statement about being more compassionate twords child molesters, I think i understand where you are coming from. Correct me if I am wrong , but you dont mean to wrap your arms around them and love them right? You mean offering more help for those who recognize the problem and ask for help BEFORE they loose control? Maybe offering counceling , even drug therapies so that they dont have to wait until after they have committed the crime before they get help? Is that what you mean?

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Also, I have no compassion for people who do molest children, it hurts me to say this, 'cause I have love for everyone, but I simply can't love someone who'd take away a person's will. I forgave the guy who raped me for what he did but I can't love him. I am only human I suppose.

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I am an "inner-child" molester. Does this count?

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Gargamel wrote:

I am an "inner-child" molester. Does this count?

So what you are saying is that you like to play with yourself? :wink:

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Of course I do!

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We're all guilty of that. Embarrassed

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Don't you hate double posts? Evil or Very Mad

*Hehe this wasn't a double post, I got confused and erased an original post, nothing worth typing again though, just some some stupid comment about masturbation*

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Lady J wrote:

Sex between two consenting adults can be anything they want it to be. One man's (or woman's) perversion may well be another man's (or woman's) pleasure..

I don't believe that WE (if you are talking a society here), have any right to draw any line on what two people together, as consenting adults have chosen for themselves.

It is not my place nor yours to decide what is kinky, disgusting or experimental for anyone else.....again as long as it is done and enjoyed by two consenting adults.

That's the ONLY rule that I can see to follow when it comes to sex. No one will EVER dictate to me what can or cannot be done in MY bedroom.

Okay, what about this scenario?

What if you met someone, say at a friend's house, at a party. You find that you get along with this new person, and you even begin to become friends with them. Then, one day, while your hanging out, talking, the person casually tells you about the fantastic friday night he or she just had, which was filled with the orgiastic sexual ectasy of having human feces smashed and rubbed all over their body and in every orifice they have for hours and hours.

Would you still hang around with that person? I know you wouldn't want to judge that person, but I guarantee you would think twice about calling them again.

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Gargamel wrote:

I am an "inner-child" molester. Does this count?

Does this mean you like to play with your wee' one with out unzipping first?

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kickycan wrote:

What if you met someone, say at a friend's house, at a party. You find that you get along with this new person, and you even begin to become friends with them. Then, one day, while your hanging out, talking, the person casually tells you about the fantastic friday night he or she just had, which was filled with the orgiastic sexual ectasy of having human feces smashed and rubbed all over their body and in every orifice they have for hours and hours.

Would you still hang around with that person? I know you wouldn't want to judge that person, but I guarantee you would think twice about calling them again.

That person would hit my Do Not Call list..
sorry, im judgemental. But I admit it!!

Truthfully, if that were to happen to me, I dont think i wouldnt ever call them again, I think I would keep contact, enjoy thier friendship , but if the talk of sex ever came up again I would definatly say I didnt want to hear about it. Of course, anyone who engages in scant usually doesnt walk around telling everyone else about it. ( thank good ness ) Laughing

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Bella Dea wrote:

Now, on the same note, I personally would not term pedophellia or necrophellia as fetishes. I think there is a line to be drawn and that is at concent. A child cannot concent nor can a dead person.

Nor can a dildo... upon death we are inanimate objects once more.

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kickycan wrote:

Okay, what about this scenario?

What if you met someone, say at a friend's house, at a party. You find that you get along with this new person, and you even begin to become friends with them. Then, one day, while your hanging out, talking, the person casually tells you about the fantastic friday night he or she just had, which was filled with the orgiastic sexual ectasy of having human feces smashed and rubbed all over their body and in every orifice they have for hours and hours.

Would you still hang around with that person? I know you wouldn't want to judge that person, but I guarantee you would think twice about calling them again.

Ah yes...Corprophilia The intense fascination for bodily excretions, including blood, urine, feces, etc. Often includes sexual arousal for same.

As far as I know, it isn't a crime. Would I want to hear about it? Nope, not at all. It doesn't do anything for me in the least. If someone else and their partner are into it, then let them go at it. I don't have to listen, I'm not a prisoner to their words Most people I know wouldn't even bring up such a fetish if not for the shock value itself. Would I dump them as a friend? Probably not. They're not harming anyone by their actions. Although I'm sure eating sh*t probably doesn't fit into any of the known food groups or give that much nutrition. Razz

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I admit, coprophilia is not something I would like to hear about very often, and friendship does entail that you talk about your private life, including your sex life. I am not sure if I can take it if that person decides to describe with they did with their partner every time. Very Happy

On the other hand, some of my close friends are very into urophilia, and that doesn't seem to bother me as much. To be sincere most of the time it just makes me laugh. My sick mind can't help but form so many disturbingly hilarious scenarios. Twisted Evil

*How did he die? He choked on his girlfriend's p^ss*

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Ummm i think the chances of me talking to them again would be severely reduced.... but more along the lines of i wouldn't want to be around somebody who thought it was ok to just randomly tell me about that kinda fetish?! Or in fact most parts of their sex life!!

I'm with Eryemil on the paedophilia thing. While i can't comment on abuse, a couple of years ago someone who my dad had worked with for some time and who i knew pretty well was convicted during operation ore for having pics on his computer... I have rarely felt as confused and mixed up inside as i did then.

While i understand utterly why he was sent to prison (the whole business of people looking at child porn encourages the making of the porn etc etc) it struck me as horrid how utterly ostricised he was because of something he'd only done for a few months during his divorce. While i have no sympathy for child molesters, i can't help but feel sorry for those who have no choice but to feel that way, yet can't act on it. I tend to think of it like being somebody who is gay, but cannot / chooses not to act on it e.g. because of religion. It's not something they can control, just a part of them that they find as utterly horrendous as everybody else

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