Fetishes; to what extent are they healthy?

Sex between two consenting adults can be anything they want it to be. One man's (or woman's) perversion may well be another man's (or woman's) pleasure..

I don't believe that WE (if you are talking a society here), have any right to draw any line on what two people together, as consenting adults have chosen for themselves.

It is not my place nor yours to decide what is kinky, disgusting or experimental for anyone else.....again as long as it is done and enjoyed by two consenting adults.

That's the ONLY rule that I can see to follow when it comes to sex. No one will EVER dictate to me what can or cannot be done in MY bedroom.

I guess we agree, I was just trying to keep the topic question neutral.

I agree as well - consenting adults should be left to decide where they want to take their sexuality.

I've seen some pretty weird stuff on HBO's Real Sex. I would have to say the line between sick sex and mental illness should be drawn at the point where serious physical harm occurs. Otherwise, what happens between consenting adults (human adults, that is) behind closed doors is their business.

I also agree with Lady J.

just to spark conversation: There are some fetishes that seem to far fetched and strange that I don't think they can get them fullfilled. For example, when can a fetish be just wrong. ie: having fantasies about young girls or boys, necrofelia, and rape scenarios. these can all be considered fetishes if they are simulated without hurting somebody, but the real thing are and also crimes if they are committed for real.

That's what I was going for Tenoch, I was waiting for someone to bring up this point.

Necrophilia, and paedophilia in itself, doesn't hurt anyone. But the acts themselves do cause harm. In the case of necrophilia, even if there's no physical or emotional harm to the subject, (he/she's dead) I am sure their family won't appreciate having their relative dug up and screwed.

I sincerely doubt that re paedophilia.

Necrophilia seems to be perhaps (!) more a cultural point.

Now, those things would fall into crossing the line, big time. That's just sick!

This is what I meant people!

I've talked to quite a few paedophiles, and I can truly say that I have nothing against them as people, but I am definitely against their sexual attractions. It's kind of like hate the sin but love the sinner isn't it? All of the guys I've talked to are going through therapy, and I admire them for that, even though paedophilia would be almost impossible to cure, they are trying to find ways to live their lives as best as they can.

*edited to add some more thoughts, didn't see the point on making another post*

Ok, I guess I was thrown by the whips and chains. I thought you were just talking about sex between 2 willing adults.

Maybe I should change the title of this topic; can that be done?

Just edit it in the first post.

Sure. Just click on edit in your origional post and you can change it there.

I just saw this and I have major issues with adults who prey on children. I have a child of my own, so the issue is extra disterbing for any parent.
I've never known one personally (not that I know of), but I think they are very sick and it scares me that so many of them are roaming around.

SOme people ask their wifes(who are of age) to dress up to look younger. Fetish or sign of mental defect.?

Some people ask their lovers to bath in ice water, and lay totally still (llike playing to be dead). Fetish or sign of metntal defect.?

some people want their lovers to scream NO! and STOP while struggling to simulate rape. Fetish or mental defect?

Now if their significant other is willing to role play to these situations then it's just a normal fetish? There is pornagraphy that simulates these things with actors. Nobody is hurt. But what does it tell you about the minds of people who watch it?

BTW: I think I watched too many episodes of LAW and order SVU.

Mental health is really based on two things.

1. Are you like everyone else? (Or at least like a significantly large group)
2. Can you function okay in the real world?

If you break both then you're definately crazy. If you break one then you're a bit crazy or in a grey area. If you don't break either then you are "sane".

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When it comes to right/wrong, that depends upon your own particular code of morality. The moral of this story...

Never ask a moral relativist like me to make judgements

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As a thought, I'm an artist, I can (and occasionally have) drawn fetish work. Some for myself and some for other people (even when I don't share their particular fetish). They're just simulations, graphite on paper, but it makes you wonder.

Would it be wrong if I drew a rape scene for example? Or drew a paedophilia scene from my imagination? If so, why?

What if I took it a step further and programmed a fully realistic virtual reality simulation in which you could commit these things against an imaginary character?

Makes you wonder. (well, makes me wonder).

No, I don't think it would be "wrong", it doesn't cause harm to anyone directly. Some people would argue that allowing these people create this kind of material will encourage them to act upon their desires, that of course, is not so. Take for example, Japan. Japanese porn is said to be higly violent, and rape scenes are very popular (or so I've read), yet statistics show that there are very few cases of nonconsensual sex in Japan. My hypothesis for this is the following; this kind of pornographic material provides relief, allowing the person to lead a "normal" life.

Double post. ^^'

I am going to put up one of my original photographs just to use the space.
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