Jeff Gannon, Jim Guckert, and... Prostitution?

What is a journalist/reporter? G/G was asking questions, writing up stories, and apparently getting published. What additional rules/qualifications would you suggest be attached to the label/job description? Is there a reporter's license one can obtain after completing a sufficient number of educational requirements? Are there continuing education hours needed? Must one have a master's in Journalism from a nice Liberal Arts college? Where are these rules at? Or are you guys just making them up as you go along?

FreeDuck wrote:

Tico. If you or I decided tomorrow to become a journalist, don't you think we'd have to start somewhere besides the White House press room?

Perhaps, but how does that indicate G/G isn't/wasn't a "journalist"?

FreeDuck wrote:

Maybe he was a journalist in the strictest sense of the word after he obtained access and started reporting, but how did he get there?

Is that the burning question that keeps liberals awake at night these days? I don't know the answer, and don't really care. I don't know if there can be a bigger non-issue?

FreeDuck wrote:

I did see for myself, McG. If you look closely, all of the "news" stories come from CNSNews. I won't even go into where they come from. It's enough that they don't appear to write their own news stories.

Intersting. So, when the New York Times uses articles from AP, UPI, Reuters, etc... what does that mean?

On the op-ed page of the New York Times, Maureen Dowd openly lied about the press pass, saying: "I was rejected for a White House press pass at the start of the Bush administration, but someone with an alias, a tax evasion problem and Internet pictures where he posed like the 'Barberini Faun' is credentialed?"...

No proof that it was a lie and the author of this crap doesn't even attempt to provide proof. Just calls her a liar and moves on.

Maureen Dowd was never denied a daily press pass. I have seen no eveidence that Gannon had a permanent press pass.

He (Scott McLellan) also said that Maurren Dowd's column in The New York Times did not tell the whole story about her credentialing woes, pointing that she was refering to a "hard" pass while Gannon only received day passes. He said he has now asked his staff to get the process going for her again to get a hard pass.

So, you are now justifying the deomcratic over-reaction based on the "They do it too!!" defense?

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Ticomaya wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

Tico. If you or I decided tomorrow to become a journalist, don't you think we'd have to start somewhere besides the White House press room?

Perhaps, but how does that indicate G/G isn't/wasn't a "journalist"?

If I put you in the cab of a semi-truck and handed you the keys, would that make you a truck driver? Playing the role of a journalist doesn't make you a journalist. He had no formal education in journalism and no experience in journalism. What makes him a journalist in your opinion?

You wouldn't be concerned if someone who had no previous journalism credentials, who worked for a site that could hardly be called a legitimate news source which had ties to the Democratic party (or MoveOn or George Soros) somehow inexplicably obtained a White House press pass (after being rejected for a press pass at the Capitol) and was frequently called on by Bill Clinton in order to ask soft ball questions like "how can you stand working with those fascist Republicans?"

And we're not even talking about the history in the porn industry yet? Can you imagine how offended Republicans would be if an ex-porn-dude somehow converted himself into a White House reporter seemingly overnight on Clinton's watch?

I think it reeks of inside favors at the very least and that it compromises the integrity of all news media.

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Ticomaya, these 'rules' are "at" the institutions that do the hiring. And yes, formal education is a prerequisite, as it is for the law, medicine, and almost every other professional discipline. No 'licenses' are needed (despite the weighty imprimatur conveyed upon Jimmy/Jeff by Morton Blackwell's $50, two-day "Leadership" training).

Then pray tell what are the "rules" at Talon? Where is it stated ANYWHERE that formal education is a prerequisite to be a journalist, as it is for law, medicine, and other professions?

Freeduck, today was the first time I visited gopusa.com. They have news from various sources, though they do seem to get their headlines from cnsnews.com. That's their decision. I doubt gopusa.com makes it into my daily rotation of news sources I visit.

However, that does not diminish what they are. They set up the Talon nes agency in an effort to have reporters on staff. They had original news peices. I have no idea what counts as a reputable news source anymore... remember Jason Blair?

I've already stated what makes him a reporter IMO: he was asking questions, writing copy, and getting published.

Ticomaya wrote:

Then pray tell what are the "rules" at Talon? Where is it stated ANYWHERE that formal education is a prerequisite to be a journalist, as it is for law, medicine, and other professions?

Do your own research if this puzzles you so.