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Canadians want Fox News Now!

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 08:25 am
sp

The lady is quite correct. I was being personally insulting.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 08:53 am
blatham:-

That's not nice mate.Why don't you get stuck in then?As a Shakespearean you have a fine range of inspirations to go at.

spendius.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 09:02 am
JW:-

If McLeod does reply,which I doubt,ask her to cut the flannel out otherwise I might break a rib.

Regards.

spendius.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 09:09 am
LOL spendius Smile That's your job Smile
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 09:09 am
JW:-

I don't take exception to Mcleod's usage.Women do tend to go in for that.Exception is taken to posting them which implies we won't notice.

spendius.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 12:07 pm
Its really quite amusing to see FOX News dismissively labled a media arm of "The State", paricularly when that criticism originates from folks who place great stock in what they perceive to be the independent, objective coverage of the likes of PBS, the BBC, and the CBC. Its amusing too that those who engage in such silliness put so much effort into trying to figure out the causality of the decline of the American Democratic Party. To such, only evildoing can explain the continued success of The Republican Party, its candidates, and its initiatives and policies. It is inconceivable to them that The Electorate simply rejects the Democratic Party's postion. Despite the evidence, the Democrats fail to see themselves moving themselves away from the The Electorate.


Though pertaining only to The US, and nothing more than a report of current public opinion, the following is of interest:

Quote:
When it comes to describing the press,
twice as many say news organizations
are "liberal" (51%) as say they are
"conservative" (26%), while 14% say
neither phrase applies. This was also
the case in surveys conducted in the
mid-to-late 1980s and, not surprisingly,
there is a significant partisan cast to
these perceptions.

Republicans see the press as more liberal
than conservative by nearly three to one
(65% to 22%). Among independents,
the margin is two to one (50% to 25%).
And while a third of Democrats say there
is a conservative tilt to the American
press, a slight plurality (41%) says the
press is more liberal than anything else.
Last year's survey of journalists seemed to
confirm many of the suspicions of those
who see a liberal bias in the news. Most
journalists characterized themselves as
moderates, but as a group they are far
more liberal, and far less conservative,
than the general public. Just 7% of the
national journalists surveyed called
themselves conservatives, compared with
33% of the public. And while 34% of
national journalists characterized
themselves as liberals, just 20% of
Americans describe themselves as liberals.

Source: Pew Research Trends 2005
(Download Note: 153 page PDF file, approx 1.8 MB)


By roughly 2-to-1 overall, Americans perceive The Media exhibit a liberal slant. Its no wonder FOX has found itself a burgeoning market, and its no wonder those who consider themselves liberal are distressed by FOX's success. Liberals, it seems to me, are tolerant of any viewpoint not divergent with their own, and are greatly discomfitted to find their viewpoint is divergent from that of the majority. Market forces being what they are, there likely is even rougher weather ahead for The Liberal Media, and for its fans.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 12:19 pm
If you can't see how Fox is anything but a mouthpiece for the administration, why, perhaps you should take a look at some of the copy here:

http://www.bushpresident2004.com/foxnews.htm

Quote:
Fox News
Fair and Balanced

Fox News regularly clobbers CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, and all the other news outlets for one simple reason: Fair and Balanced. They Report. You Decide. Fox News' coverage has been an asset to news consumers nation-wide who are sick of the media's liberal bias and ultra-leftist agenda.

Fair and Balanced

The Chairman of Fox News is Roger Ailes, a former campaign strategist for George W. Bush's father, President George H.W. Bush. In the days after September 11, 2001, Roger Ailes sent a secret letter to George W. Bush's chief political advisor Karl Rove. Rove promptly delivered it to Bush. In this letter, Ailes advises the President, through his political advisor, to use the "harshest measures possible" in response to the terrorist attacks.

"The American public would tolerate waiting and would be patient, but only as long as they were convinced that Bush was using the harshest measures possible. Support would dissipate if the public did not see Bush acting harshly."


- From Roger Ailes' letter to Karl Rove after September 11, 2001

While some may see a conflict of interest in the chairman of a news organization advising the president on political matters, it is actually proof of Fox News' fair and balanced journalism.


Just look at the language, Timber...

Cycloptichorn
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 12:33 pm
"That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

An extremely telling article...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1107320400&en=1f9a57e5a1e413ac&ei=5070&oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=1&oref=login
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 01:17 pm
blatham wrote:
....

What has happened in the US over the last two or three decades exemplifies the danger of trusting to a deregulated media environment. So, what has happened?

An alternate media environment has been established by a group of ideologically-driven individuals and organizations. It's been very well funded and includes radio, tv, the internet, and think tanks. It's purpose is to forward a singular set of political ideas and communication techniques...

To the degree that such a media network seeks to, and is successful at, replacing an objective or 'critical of both sides' media, it becomes a real threat to democracy.


Rush (as well as other conservative talk shows) is popular because, .... well, ... he's popular. What do you think ... the RNC is funding his program? He has an audience base. Why do you suppose that is?

farmerman wrote:
Fox Cable in the US is about as close to a state TV as possible. The "heads" are all suck-ups to the administration and then they have the cojones to criticize the "liberal controlled media"
...


And had -- God forbid! -- Kerry won the election, would FOX News still be considered "state TV"? Give me a break!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 01:24 pm
Rush is one of the greatest things to ever come out of Canada.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 02:59 pm
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Rush is one of the greatest things to ever come out of Canada.


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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:05 pm
Born in Cape Girardeau, MO, in 1951, Limbaugh spent many of his formative years pursuing a career in radio.

After using his pilonidal cyst - a congenital birth defect - to avoid military service in the Vietnam War, Limbaugh briefly worked for radio stations in Pittsburgh, PA and Kansas City, MO. Fired from both jobs, he worked as a wiener salesman for
the KC Royals baseball franchise, eventually slithering back into the radio business.

In 1971 Limbaugh attended Southeastern Missouri University, where, according to reports, he had a brief but heated affair with Elliot Sanders. So gay is Limbaugh, guarantees Sanders, that, "none of his marriages was ever consummated."

Many of Limbaugh's fans staunchly deny the man's alleged homosexuality, and Limbaugh himself says the rumors are politically motivated lies. However, one is forced to doubt Limbaugh, who has a history of denying and balking at rumors that are later revealed to be true. His pilonidal cyst, his
pseudonymous career in Pittsburgh radio, and his addiction to Oxycontin are all facts which Limbaugh initially denied or concealed.

After more failed stints with Missouri radio stations Limbaugh moved to Sacramento, CA, where he met and became "friends" with Norm Woodruff, a flamboyant, openly gay man with a great deal of influence in the local radio scene. Woodruff, who
mentored Limbaugh in the ways of affluence and elitism (traits Rush mocks today), would later died of AIDS.

Through his ties to Woodruff Limbaugh was given Morton Downey, Jr.'s spot on KFBK News Talk 1530 a.m. Within twelve months Limbaugh had become the most popular radio personality in Sacramento. In 1988 he signed on with EFM Media Management, working from New York City.

For a short while Limbaugh plateaued, until the success and enormous popularity of a Democratic president provided him with a reason to whine.

The popularity and charisma of President Clinton enabled Limbaugh's hate-filled show to appeal to millions of bitter American conservatives. Limbaugh's unique combination of prevarication and histrionics provided a sense of unity for
otherwise incompatible demographics, such as Klansmen and Wall Street stock brokers.

By the mid-90's Limbaugh's promoters had co-opted his show to enough nationwide syndicates to claim Limbaugh was the "most popular radio personality" in the country. Technically this was false. However, the free handout out of Limbaugh's show to any station that wanted it resulted in Limbaugh being the most listened-to man on a.m. radio.

Inspired by Clinton-induced vitriol, Limbaugh paid a ghostwriter to author for him See, I Told You So (1992), Nanny Nanny, Boo Boo (1993), and I'm Rubber. You're Glue. Whatever You Say Bounces off Me and Sticks to You (1994).

After miserably failing on television, Limbaugh spiraled into depression, eventually becoming addicted to pain pills prescribed to him for his pilonidal cyst (a.k.a. "Butt Boil"). For nearly eight years Limbaugh abused Hydrocodone, a synthetic,
stronger version of heroin.

In effect, Limbaugh spent nearly a decade stoned off his bleeding backside, and ultimately built up his tolerance to levels requiring dozens of pills per day in order to, as Limbaugh once confided in his maid, "get my buzz on."

A textbook example of the damning effects of drug abuse, Limbaugh's addiction precipitated a swift drop in weight, deafness in both ears, and a marked decline in mental faculties. He also became increasingly paranoid - requiring his provider to meet him at night behind restaurants, next to dumpsters, where he'd hand over cigar boxes stuffed with "cabbage" (cash) in exchange for some "little baby blues" (pills). Limbaugh's
desperation peaked in 2003, when he groped his provider in an attempt to check her for a wire tap.

By late 2003 the whole world knew of Limbaugh's drug addiction, though by virtue of their lack of character the majority of his fan base remained loyal listeners. Limbaugh's show remained popular, despite the rapid rise of Liberal Talk
Show host Al Franken and the dogged attempts by the Bush administration to shut down long time talk show staple Howard Stern.

In May 2004 Rush's third wife, Marta, grew tired of never having sex with her allegedly closeted homosexual of a husband, and so asked for a divorce. Limbaugh complied after his desperate wife agreed to never reveal the true nature of Rush's sexual perversion.

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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:07 pm
The greatest liar to NOT come out of Canada!!

http://www.foxtimes.com/db5/00440/foxtimes.com/_uimages/limbaugh_butt_boil_abbr.mp3

So very sad...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:20 pm
Way to be over-dramatic.

Let me reiterate...

RUSH IS PERHAPS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER COME OUT OF CANADA!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:23 pm
Maybe it's a generational thing, McG.


Geddy Lee lives pretty close to me - see a couple of the other guys around occasionally - they're still great guys - put on a GREAT show for the tsunami fundraiser on the CBC. I don't think they're THE greatest, but definitely way up there.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:24 pm
Fortunately, McGentrix, that's only an opinion, and nowhere near the truth.

Or are you aware of that?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:27 pm
Dookie - do you have any idea what McG is talking about?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:27 pm
Hmmm. I've been a huge fan since '87 when I saw Rush the first time. Before that, I listened to Rush on the radio. I have seen Rush every chance I can get since. Rush is truly a phenomenon.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:30 pm
Take off, eh.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 03:34 pm
ehBeth, please. I am having fun with this!
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