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Canadians want Fox News Now!

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 10:12 am
McG:-

A state of the art light switch.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 10:15 am
spendius wrote:
McG:-

A state of the art light switch.


Um ... it's clearly a mouse. It's not art, it's a photo, not open for critical interpretation.

Of course that's merely my opinion.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 10:17 am
Pedantic swine-spoiling all the fun.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 10:38 am
I just read through three or four pages of the favorite A2K game of "Who's is blackest" including posts of articles written by racists accusing conservative media of racism with the usual suspects heartily agreeing with that.

Do I think the average liberal is more racist than the average conservative? Of course s/he is--the average liberal thinks minorities and minority groups should receive special deference, should be treated with extra PC, and need white men/women to lift them up out of whatever abyss they are perceived to be.

Conservatives think people are people, everybody needs a shot and everybody is to be treated the same and held to the same degree of accountability and criticism no matter what 'group' they belng to.

I see the first mindset, however well intentioned, as racist. The second is not.

I think Lash was onto something when she raised the issue of PC in this thread. I may be wrong, but I think I am observing that any news source whether it be Fox or the Washington Times or any other medium that does not conform to the liberal left's view of PC is going to be suspect, trashed, and depicted as evil. And they still wonder why they keep losing market share and elections.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 10:54 am
While I place myself squarely in the description of "conservatives" you present, Foxfyre, unfortunately there are racists on both sides of the political spectrum. There are racist liberals and racist conservatives.

The point I believe you are making, which points out that looking at the color of one's skin and treating differently on that basis (whether that's treating them better or worse) is rascist, is true in my opinion, and it is an admirable goal to eliminate that from our society.

However, it is a sad fact of reality that rascism still exists, and "anti-discrimination" laws are still needed.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 12:11 pm
Not touching down on that little Marian Kester Coombs bit, foxy?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 01:00 pm
Oh, goodness...and now it turns up that Gannon had...

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"This matter is growing more serious by the day. We now know that 'Jeff Gannon' had access to classified CIA documents that contained the identity of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame. This is more than an issue of media manipulation by the White House... this is now an issue of national security," said Rep. Slaughter. "What is the White House hiding? This man, Mr. Gannon, should never have been admitted into the White House briefing room in the first place. Someone let him in day after day. Someone gave him access to classified CIA documents. Someone must answer for this. It is critical that we uncover the exact nature of the relationship between Gannon and this White House," added Slaughter."
http://www.slaughter.house.gov/HoR/Louise/News/Press+Releases+By+Date/2005+Press+Releases/Slaughter+calls+on+Special+Investigation.htm
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 01:04 pm
Quote:
WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: WHAT IS A REPORTER?
Thu Feb 10 2005 20:49:03 ET

White House spokesman Scott McClellan On Thursday challenged liberal media activists, who are currently feigning outrage over events surrounding "Jeff Gannon," to examine the definition of reporter in the new century.

"In this day and age, when you have a changing media, it's not an easy issue to decide or try to pick and choose who is a journalist. It gets into the issue of advocacy journalism," McClellan said.

"Where do you draw the line? There are a number of people who cross that line in the briefing room.

"There are a number of people in that room that express their points of view, and there are people in that room that represent traditional media, they represent talk radio, they're columnists, and they represent online news organizations."

Developing...


http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3jg.htm
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 01:37 pm
Well, that's wonderfully incoherent.

It's difficult to pick who ought to be allowed into a press briefing?? Someone operating under a false name, working for a non-news entity staffed by three or four people in an apartment somewhere, none of whom are journalists, and all of whom are party operatives. Are you joking?

The outrage isn't feigned, it's real.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 02:05 pm
Drudge wrote:
WHAT IS A REPORTER?


blatham wrote:
It's difficult to pick who ought to be allowed into a press briefing?? Someone operating under a false name


Are you saying those that "operate" using names that are not their own should be precluded from working in journalism? You do seem to have a bit of a hang-up about this "false name" thing I've noticed.... I've been lead to believe that many show biz types do this - use names not given to them at birth - and even television news types. In fact, I imagine it's not uncommon for those "in the biz" to use names that are not their own. Does this mean they should be disqualified from the White House briefing room? The answer, dear blatham, is not "Yes."

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working for a non-news entity


What's a "non-news entity"?

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staffed by three or four people in an apartment somewhere


By your definition the number of employees in your news organization has a bearing on whether you are a reporter?

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none of whom are journalists


Doesn't that beg the question?

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and all of whom are party operatives


"Party operatives"? What does that mean? That they are left-leaning or right-leaning, or have a political bias? We're really thinning out the press corp now. There wouldn't be anybody from AP or the NYT in the room. Laughing
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 02:58 pm
I just love to see all the back bends and contritions when this kind of story hits the news. It's a great way to take a break when you've been working for a few hours......very funny.

Come on Tico by way of the illustrious Drudge....."it's difficult to pick who ought to be in a press briefing." Surely you can do better than that. I want to see some tumbling and twisting and standing on your head before we're done with this one.

I suppose I could go over to the White House and say I'm a journalist and I want to attend the press briefing. I'm sure they'll be happy as pie to let me in.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:01 pm
And McG, tell us why you chose your avie. What attracted your attention to it? It's just really a nice photo with pretty hands and you're a computer threadster and it symbolizes your commitment to the liberation of women and you love red nail polish and you just thought it cute or what?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:20 pm
Lola wrote:
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Come on Tico by way of the illustrious Drudge.....it's difficultl to pick who ought to be in a press briefing. Surely you can do better than that. I want to see some tumbling and twisting and standing on your head before we're done with this one.


Correction ... White House spokesman Scott McClellan, by way of Drudge, by way of Tico. I don't pick 'em. You apparently, like blatham, feel there are some hard and fast rules that apply here?

Lola wrote:
I suppose I could go over to the White House and say I'm a journalist and I want to attend the press briefing. I'm sure they'll be happy as pie to let me in.


Give it a shot.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:35 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Lola wrote:
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Come on Tico by way of the illustrious Drudge.....it's difficultl to pick who ought to be in a press briefing. Surely you can do better than that. I want to see some tumbling and twisting and standing on your head before we're done with this one.


Correction ... White House spokesman Scott McClellan, by way of Drudge, by way of Tico. I don't pick 'em. You apparently, like blatham, feel there are some hard and fast rules that apply here?

Lola wrote:
I suppose I could go over to the White House and say I'm a journalist and I want to attend the press briefing. I'm sure they'll be happy as pie to let me in.


Give it a shot.


I don't have the time darlin........I shouldn't even be here reading, but it's just so fun to watch. Too tempting.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:39 pm
It actually would be kind of a fun road trip.

We all head to D.C., and see who can get into the scrum (well, the thing you guys have that is sorta kinda almost like a scrum, well not quite, but it'll do)

We've got this amazing photocopier here. I'm sure we could work up some docs.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:48 pm
Lola wrote:
And McG, tell us why you chose your avie. What attracted your attention to it? It's just really a nice photo with pretty hands and you're a computer threadster and it symbolizes your commitment to the liberation of women and you love red nail polish and you just thought it cute or what?


I chose it because I liked it. Isn't that why everyone chooses the avatar they use?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 03:59 pm
Lola wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Lola wrote:
I suppose I could go over to the White House and say I'm a journalist and I want to attend the press briefing. I'm sure they'll be happy as pie to let me in.


Give it a shot.


I don't have the time darlin........I shouldn't even be here reading, but it's just so fun to watch. Too tempting.


Yes, I agree it's fun to watch. ... I'm waiting patiently for blatham's next posting of an article from salon.com that is not plainly written with an anti-Bush slant.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 04:05 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Do I think the average liberal is more racist than the average conservative? Of course s/he is--the average liberal thinks minorities and minority groups should receive special deference, should be treated with extra PC, and need white men/women to lift them up out of whatever abyss they are perceived to be.

I think Lash was onto something when she raised the issue of PC in this thread. I may be wrong, but I think I am observing that any news source whether it be Fox or the Washington Times or any other medium that does not conform to the liberal left's view of PC is going to be suspect, trashed, and depicted as evil. And they still wonder why they keep losing market share and elections.

As a reaction to that same Washington Times turning out to regularly publish articles by an avowed racist, who happens to be the editor's wife, that is quite wonderfully incoherent, to borrow Blatham's phrase.

Confronted with the revelation of the most hateful, inyourface racism spewed by someone prominently involved with the Washington Times, Fox opts to defend that very same Washington Times, careful not to mention anything about that person, and instead rushing on to proclaim that the by far worse racists in any case are the liberals, because eh ... they propone affirmative action.

Yep. Coulter huffing about "simulated interracial sex" - means nothing. Wife of WT editor and regular WT contributor decrying the "racial decomposition" of America - whatever - the only reason people could declare the newspaper suspect is obviously just because it "does not conform to the liberal left's view of PC". Liberal saying that discrimination in the labour market still exists and affirmative action is therefore still necessary - the worst form of racism.

Its paternalistic, you see. Unlike Republicans, who are not paternalistic about blacks. Their only explanation for how 92% of America's Blacks currently vote Democratic is that all those poor, gullible blacks apparently are just all too easily manipulated by those evil Dems; but that analysis is obviously wholly free of condescension.

I cant believe I'm even having this conversation. I remember back when some of us leftists were declared to encourage racism because we had not in time spoken up about a Doonesbury cartoon that pictured Bush calling Rice by a nickname. But now that a frequent Washington Times contributor, the wife of the editor, turns out to be a virulent racist who exhorts white men to "run, not walk" to wed "racially conscious" white women, Foxy instantly closes ranks and declares the same Times the victim of mere political correctness.

Whatever.

Kudos to Tico, though.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 04:07 pm
Tico

Your posts on this subject and your notions of what constitutes journalism, and objectivity, and the role of a free press, and the proper operations of a government regarding a free press, go a long ways towards making sense of what you read and paste here in a2k.

Are there any standards you, or fox, might maintain above partisan alignment? We have now, courtesy of the administration you consistently laud to a point near worship, the institutionalization of torture, unprecedented budget deficits, deceit and secrecy as prime operational policies (why didn't Rice and Gonzales simply take the fifth?), the utter and total refusal to ever hold themselves accountable for anything gone awry, the boosterism of war and the whoring of the military for marketing purposes, and the covert payment to 'media figures' to forward state-sanctioned viewpoints (propaganda).

Congratulations on your unyielding support for such noble values.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 11 Feb, 2005 04:09 pm
And what is UP with all that huffing and puffing about McG's avatar? Havent you all seen Slappy go around with a penis-head avatar for a week? Let go already!
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