Should we show respect for other people's "beliefs?"

Its a good place to kick off from Lola.Humility.Stand in awe at the given you lucky sods and contemplate the suffering required to get us to here.

spendius.

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Should we show respect for other people's "beliefs?" Let's save time and get to the point - NO!!

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It's their belief, not yours or mine - so let's stop being politically correct and state what we really think.

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Bib:-

What's the point of your pronouncements if you already advised us all not to respect them.

spendius.

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Do you feel it? I

FEEL

the love on this thread!!!!

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spendius wrote:

Bib:-

What's the point of your pronouncements if you already advised us all not to respect them.

spendius.

"Respect" is a common word that is so diluted today, most people only pay it lipservice. It's political correctness gone mad.

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Bibliophile the BibleGuru wrote:

spendius wrote:
Bib:-

What's the point of your pronouncements if you already advised us all not to respect them.

spendius.

"Respect" is a common word that is so diluted today, most people only pay it lipservice. It's political correctness gone mad.

a gross generalization. Mutual respect between two people is still considered the highest of currencies, to some.

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Snood: respect between two people is not the same as respecting someone's beliefs - you're moving off the point.

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Speaking of moving off the point, what happened to Frank? I haven't seen any of his posts in the past few days. Maybe he got pissed at snood and left.

Speaking of, what was all that about, snood? You had me worried there.

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I would argue with Bibliophile's assertion. I think respect between two people DOES include a certain respect for their beliefs. It certainly doesn't mean you need to --subscribe-- to those beliefs, or pretend to--

But, let them have their beliefs without criticizing them for it--or trying to make them defensive or angry about it.

....Biblio-- Have you undergone a drastic political make-over since your sabbatical? I seem to remember you quite more conservative in your views way back in yore... A change, or a faulty memory on my part?

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Lash wrote:

I would argue with Bibliophile's assertion. I think respect between two people DOES include a certain respect for their beliefs. It certainly doesn't mean you need to --subscribe-- to those beliefs, or pretend to--

But, let them have their beliefs without criticizing them for it--or trying to make them defensive or angry about it.

....Biblio-- Have you undergone a drastic political make-over since your sabbatical? I seem to remember you quite more conservative in your views way back in yore... A change, or a faulty memory on my part?

Old age and grumpiness makes one lose patience with pseudologophiles who use words without a) understanding their meaning, and b) using them spinelessly in order to "sound" respectful.

Was that the old Bib or the new Bib talking, Lash?

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Bibliophile

rspect for other people beliefs is not only "political correcteness". It is nothing more than to accept their right to have those beliefs. That doesn't mean we cannnot discuss them.

Another thing: do you really think it is possible to respect another person without respecting his right to have her own beliefs?

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Bibliophile the BibleGuru wrote:

Lash wrote:
I would argue with Bibliophile's assertion. I think respect between two people DOES include a certain respect for their beliefs. It certainly doesn't mean you need to --subscribe-- to those beliefs, or pretend to--

But, let them have their beliefs without criticizing them for it--or trying to make them defensive or angry about it.

....Biblio-- Have you undergone a drastic political make-over since your sabbatical? I seem to remember you quite more conservative in your views way back in yore... A change, or a faulty memory on my part?

Old age and grumpiness makes one lose patience with pseudologophiles who use words without a) understanding their meaning, and b) using them spinelessly in order to "sound" respectful.

Was that the old Bib or the new Bib talking, Lash?

It seemed liked an assy person trying to overcompensate for a small volcabulary...

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Can you disagree with someone and respect their beliefs or just respect their right to their beliefs ?

For example if a person were to say "I disagree with you...but I respect your beliefs."

Is it even possible to respect those beliefs that you disagree with ?

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"Respect for other people's beliefs" is one of the most overdone pieces of nonsense ever to try to pass itself off as reasonable philosophy.

Most people who insist that all people should "respect" other people's "beliefs"....really are only interested in other people "respecting": their "beliefs"...and the "beliefs" of people who are not in contradiction with those "beliefs."

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I can show respect that a person "has" beliefs.
I don't care whether I agree with those beliefs or not. It is important to that person and I respect that. Still doesn't mean I can't disagree or question them and it should be acceptable to that person that I have the right to do so. Of course we all know that we all think WE are right and so it gets heated. Ah well. It wouldn't be interesting otherwise. We would have no wars without heated differences. And without wars we would have no military or thought of building war machines. And without war machines there would be no thought of what damage and destruction we could do to each other. And without this thought we would never come up with amazing ideas and products that could be used to expand and enhance our lives and communities (as well as the inherrent damage also).

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Heeven wrote:

I can show respect that a person "has" beliefs.
I don't care whether I agree with those beliefs or not. It is important to that person and I respect that. Still doesn't mean I can't disagree or question them and it should be acceptable to that person that I have the right to do so. Of course we all know that we all think WE are right and so it gets heated. Ah well. It wouldn't be interesting otherwise. We would have no wars without heated differences. And without wars we would have no military or thought of building war machines. And without war machines there would be no thought of what damage and destruction we could do to each other. And without this thought we would never come up with amazing ideas and products that could be used to expand and enhance our lives and communities (as well as the inherrent damage also).

I truly understand where you are coming from on this, Heeven...just as I truly understand where MA is coming from on it...

...but there is an inherent illogical element of the notion to "respect" the "beliefs" of others.

EASIEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF: Suppose someone has a "belief system" that includes the notion that the "beliefs" of anyone else who happens to have conflicting "beliefs"...should be scorned and ridiculed at every opportunity and with as much gusto as possible.

How on earth could you suggest...

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Still doesn't mean I can't disagree or question them and it should be acceptable to that person that I have the right to do so.

...?

It cannot happen.

The notion that we should respect other's beliefs is inherently flawed.

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Well, well.....we're still up and running !

I of course agree with you Frank about feeling respect, but you ask whether we should show respect .....and that's a matter of expediency ! :wink:

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fresco means that if they have you covered with Tommy guns you tug on your forelock.I can't see anything wrong with that.

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fresco wrote:

Well, well.....we're still up and running !

I of course agree with you Frank about feeling respect, but you ask whether we should show respect .....and that's a matter of expediency ! :wink:

I certainly agree that there is a difference between feeling respect...and offering or showing it.

But I will leave that be for now.

How the heck are ya, Fresco? Truly great to "see" you.

You really have been a rarity around here.

Are things okay?

Have you tossed us aside for a fairer maiden? Twisted Evil

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