Me Too

@maxdancona,

Again, you're perpetrating nastiness just as much as any one else. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

Again, you're perpetrating nastiness just as much as any one else. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

I accept this.

In my defense, I have tried several times in the last few pages to direct the discussion back to the topic. People don't seem to respond well.

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@maxdancona,

It's not your place to "direct" anything.

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@neptuneblue,

Don’t expect him to take any notice. If he’s not telling people what to do he’s got nothing to say.

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George Orwell wrote:

Gentlemen," concluded Napoleon, "I will give you the same toast as before, but in a different form. Fill your glasses to the brim. Gentlemen, here is my toast: To the prosperity of The Manor Farm! "

There was the same hearty cheering as before, and the mugs were emptied to the dregs. But as the animals outside gazed at the scene, it seemed to them that some strange thing was happening. What was it that had altered in the faces of the pigs? Clover's old dim eyes flitted from one face to another. Some of them had five chins, some had four, some had three. But what was it that seemed to be melting and changing? Then, the applause having come to an end, the company took up their cards and continued the game that had been interrupted, and the animals crept silently away.

But they had not gone twenty yards when they stopped short. An uproar of voices was coming from the farmhouse. They rushed back and looked through the window again. Yes, a violent quarrel was in progress. There were shoutings, bangings on the table, sharp suspicious glances, furious denials. The source of the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played an ace of spades simultaneously.

Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

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@maxdancona,

Completely irrelevant, it may mean something to you but Then again language has never been your forte.

Orwell was a public schoolboy playing at Socialism. He had too much to lose for it to be anything other than an affectation.

Instead of trying to be enigmatic you could try saying why you think those who support Me too are no different from abusers themselves. Although that would mean using your own words instead of some cackhanded cut and paste.

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@neptuneblue,

I'm so sorry. What you've been through is so horrible, disgusting, revolting... Words are trite.

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@Olivier5,

Bit late now, maybe you should have thought of that before you started calling victims crybabies.

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@izzythepush,

I never called her a crybaby. I called you one, and Ed. You're a victim too, Izzy?

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@Olivier5,

No I'm not a victim.

What exactly have I been crying about?

Be bloody specific for once.

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@izzythepush,

About Max. It's not important anyway.

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Let's just all agree what I am the only victim crybaby here.

I don't mind.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

I never called her a crybaby. I called you one, and Ed. You're a victim too, Izzy?

Everyone has experienced victimization in some way or no one would even be able to understand the concept.

Calling people 'crybabies' is a tactic to subjugate victims into not complaining about being victimized. Don't do that.

If you want to complain about crying/whining, do it regarding 'crocodile tears,' where people pretend to cry/whine in order to claim victim status, which they expect will get them some power/leverage they wouldn't get otherwise.

The problem is that because empathy and respect for victims is natural, there are going to be people who try to exploit that natural reaction for power. It is just part of the dark side of the human condition. If you try to stop it by ending empathy altogether, you end up with hard-hearted people.

So I guess we will just always be at the mercy of liars and their crocodile tears, at least until the village people stop believing the cries of 'wolf' and end up hard-hearted to real tears because all those crocodile tears have pushed them beyond the point where they have any place left in their hearts to believe in real tears. It's sad that happens, but it is interesting that fake-victim narratives are the ammunition that end up destroying true empathy for real victims. You would think it would be the bullying that does it, but it ends up taking lying about fake victimization to totally undermine the humane heart.

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@Olivier5,

I said specific, not vague.

That’s so typical of you hurling out random insults without thinking.

When I called you a crybaby I could back it up.

All you’ve got is a load of fatuous bollocks.

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@maxdancona,

Trying to tell everyone what to do again. You just can’t help yourself.

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@maxdancona,

Quote:

I have tried...
...back to the topic.

Fact is, except for when you waltz in and start yapping and yammering your 'ideological bubble " foolishness, the thread was and has been topical (save for an occasional segue or your tag-team antics with a few others).

Go start an Ideological BubbleHead thread if that's what rocks your world.

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

Quote:
I have tried...
...back to the topic.

Go start an Ideological BubbleHead thread if that's what rocks your world.

Why would I start another thread? This thread is perfectly fine.

In the past 6 pages or so, not one of you bubbleheads has posted anything about #MeToo. (I love the word "bubblehead", I think I will steal it.)

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@maxdancona,

YOU are the ideologue and boneheaded BubbleHead... It would be a thread all about yourself.

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@Sturgis,

Several pages ago the bubbleheads were all telling each other to "ignore the troll". And they are perfectly free to ignore anyone that they label as a troll. In fact I agree with that sentiment-- they should ignore the troll (by troll, I assume we all mean me).

If they had anything real to say, they would express their thoughts or opinions. They could discuss it. If anyone posts something that they don't want to discuss, they can simply ignore it.

The troll has expressed a point of view. It isn't the "correct" point of view, but the troll (as a member here) has every right to express their point of view.

Some people may agree with the troll. Others may be interested in what the troll has to say.

People can ignore the troll. But they can't prevent the troll from expressing his or her opinion. That's the reason we have page after interminable page of mud throwing at the troll rather than any real discussion of an important topic.

So please, ignore the troll.

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@Sturgis,

When is the last time you or Izzy made a post on this thread that wasn't about me? (I still wonder if you zip up Izzy's pants before you type a response. If you aren't a sock puppet, you are like Izzy's Mini-me)

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