McGentrix wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:Like I said...they are not looking for open-mindedness or objectivity...and in fact want the exact opposite...closemindedness and a lack of objectivity in favor of "we were justified"...and "it is working out just fine."
If you can't agree with that...and nobody with an open-mind and any degree of objectivity at all CAN...you might as well be whistling Dixie as arguing this stuff.
Frank, your opinion on open mindedness isn't held in very high regard.
Perhaps not by you? But why should I concern myself with that?
Quote:Prior to our invasion of Iraq, the justifications were right.
No, McG...they were not. Only the blind would not see that they were not. Remember, an integral part of the justification had to do with the immanency of his use of the weapons
which he did not have.
Quote:Saddam was believed to have WMD's and he was known to support terrorist groups. All the intelligence we had pointed to those conclusions.
No
all the intelligence we had did
not point to those conclusions, McG. Some of the intelligence we had pointed in quite a different direction
but because these people wanted to invade Iraq no matter what...they simply discarded any intelligence that pointed in the other direction.
Quote:We still know he had the WMD's, we just haven't found them yet.
I am sure you just said that to make me laugh
and I thank you for that. Whatever you do, do not bring up any shots from any grassy knolls. I've got a cold right now and too much laughter could start up a coughing spasm.
Quote: Most believe they were secreted off to Syria who now is helping the insurrection with weapons and money.
Only by people who are desperate to justify this misadventure. But thanks for the second laugh. You are a card!
Quote: These complaints that we were wrong because we haven't found any WMD's are immaterial. We are there now and it's our duty to see to it that Iraq becomes a free and stable country.
First of all, it is not immaterial except to someone who wants to excuse this misadventure. But while I agree we should try to straighten out the mess we have caused
there is absolutely no way
it is our duty to see to it that Iraq becomes a free and stable country.
Quote:I do not understand why many of you refuse to acknowledge that some good is resulting from our actions.
There are lots of things you don't understand McG
and most of that lack of understanding comes from stone-headedness on your part.
In any case, most of us have acknowledged that some good may result from our actions
but as I mentioned in the comments to which you took exception
people like you are not looking for that. You are looking for the same blind acceptance that you extend to this madness.
Quote: Is it so hard to believe that what we are doing may actually result in something positive or does that conflict with your hatred of Bush so much that all you can do is whine and complain about the bad things.
What is hard for me to understand is why you cannot see that I am not saying that nothing good may result from what we are doing
but rather that I see much more harm coming from it than good.
Why are you unwilling to see what has been stated several times in this thread? Afraid the truth is going to hurt you?
