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Iraq through Iraqis' eyes

 
 
Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 08:28 am
Iraq through Iraqis' eyes

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | December 16, 2004

A YEAR AFTER Saddam Hussein was captured, how goes the liberation of Iraq?

If a phrase like "the liberation of Iraq" strikes you as ironic, chances are most of what you know about the situation there comes from the mainstream press. After all, a tidal wave of journalism has been portraying Iraq as a chaotic mess more or less from the moment US troops entered the country. The drumbeat of bad news is inescapable: looting, insurgency, terrorists, kidnappings. And, always, the grimly mounting toll of Iraqi and US casualties. This is liberation?

But how would Iraq appear if we saw it through not the reporting of Western journalists, but the candid testimony of Iraqis themselves? American reporters accustomed to freedom and the rule of law experience Iraq today as a place of danger and violence. Iraqis who lived under Saddam were accustomed to tyranny, cruelty, and secret police. What do they make of their country today?

Last spring, three enterprising Americans -- filmmakers Eric Manes and Martin Kunert, both former producers for MTV, and Gulf War veteran Archie Drury, a former Marine -- decided to find out. They distributed 150 digital video recorders to ordinary Iraqis and asked them to film anyone or anything they thought worthwhile -- and then pass the camera on to someone else.

From April to September, the cameras traveled from hand to hand through every region of the country. What eventually came back to the three Americans was 450 hours of raw video recorded by more than 2,000 Iraqis from all walks of life -- and not one frame of it influenced by an outside director or crew. Edited down to a taut 80 minutes, the result -- "Voices of Iraq" -- is a gripping documentary that for the first time shows Iraq as even the most skillful American journalist will never be able to show it: through the eyes and ears of Iraq's people.

"Voices of Iraq" is by turns heartbreaking, exhilarating, and inspiring. The war and its destruction is never far from the surface. One of the opening scenes is of a car bombing in Sadr City, and when a little girl is asked, "What do you want to tell the world about Iraq?" her answer is poignant: "These explosions are hurting everyone." A mother is seen weeping for her son, killed in the crossfire during a fight between US soldiers and looters. There is even footage -- supplied, Drury told NPR, by a sheik from Fallujah -- of insurgents preparing a bomb.

But bad as the war is, the horror it ended -- Saddam's 24-year reign -- was worse.

In the film, a young Kurdish mother tells her daughter, who is wielding the camcorder, how she would burn herself with cigarettes to prepare for the torture she knew was coming. A policeman recalls what it was like to arrest a member of the Ba'ath Party. "You'd be scared," he says. "You'd shake with fear." One man explains that Saddam's son Uday "used to come often to Ravad Street -- every Thursday for the market -- to choose a girl to rape."

A few brief clips are shown from a captured Fedayeen Saddam videotape: A blindfolded victim thrown to his death from a rooftop, a man's hand getting severed, someone's tongue being cut out.

It isn't hard to understand the emotions of the man who answers, when asked how he reacted to the news of Saddam's capture, "I danced like this! I kept dancing. Then I cried."

Yet for all they have been through, Iraqis come across as incredibly optimistic, hopeful, and enthusiastic. And above all, normal. In "Voices of Iraq" they film themselves flying on rides in an amusement park, dancing the night away at a graduation party, taking their kids to a playground, shopping for cellphones. A police officer mugs for the camera. Shoppers throng the streets of Suleimaniyah. A scrawny kid pumps iron with a makeshift barbell -- and gives a shout out to Arnold Schwarzenegger. ("I like your movies. You're a good actor. Can you please send me some real weights?")

Iraqis haven't had much experience with democracy, but we see the delight they take in the new opportunities Saddam's defeat is making possible. Two women celebrate the freedom to get a passport. An artist talks proudly about work for which he went to prison. A young woman says her dream is to be a lawyer. One rough-looking fellow says simply, "I wish for a government elected by the Iraqi people." Yes, it's a liberation. And the men and women we liberated, it turns out, are people just like us. The headlines dwell on the bad news, and the bad news is certainly real. But things are looking up in Iraq, as the Iraqis themselves will be happy to tell you. All someone had to do was ask.

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JustWonders
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 08:58 am
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And the men and women we liberated, it turns out, are people just like us. The headlines dwell on the bad news, and the bad news is certainly real. But things are looking up in Iraq, as the Iraqis themselves will be happy to tell you. All someone had to do was ask.


Unfortunately, most here spend their days looking up the "if it bleeds, it leads" stories dealing with our efforts in Iraq. (Think NYTimes).

If they truly wanted the real story, they'd ask.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 10:52 am
We all know that there are plenty of Iraqis who are happy Saddam is gone.

But it's pretty evident that there are plenty of Iraqis who are pissed off at America/the situation, as well.

We need to get the vast majority of people, the 'happy ones' who just want to maintain a society, on our side. We haven't really done this, and the insurgency (and tactical support thereof) is the symptom.

Cycloptichorn
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 11:36 am
I guess the poor conservatives who, in their kneejerk mode to put the very best possible face on a cosmic misadventure made by one of the most incompetent administrations ever to pollute this country...

...have to post nonsense like this.

I guess I should be charitable and just let it slide...but to be honest, I am laughing too goddam hard not to share.

Thanks, McG.

You can always be counted on to come up with something hilarious.

Liberation!!!!

Boy...you guys musta crowed about My Lai. That was another liberation.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 11:46 am
Frank's inability to see two sides of this conflict is shared by most liberals. Being too tied up in their anti-Bush charade that when something other than "bush sucks" is mentioned in regards to Iraq they feel they must drop a turd on it.

Thanks for sharing Frank.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 11:48 am
Soooooo...

450 hours, edited to 80 minutes...

We get to see a bit less than .3 percent of what was shot? I'm sure that "two sides" are presented. Yep.

Good one! You really proved your point....
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 11:49 am
The film makers? I am sure that if you wanted to pay them they'd show you all the footage they received...
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 11:55 am
McGentrix wrote:
Frank's inability to see two sides of this conflict is shared by most liberals. Being too tied up in their anti-Bush charade that when something other than "bush sucks" is mentioned in regards to Iraq they feel they must drop a turd on it.

Thanks for sharing Frank.


You are quite welcome, McG.




By the way...I can see two sides of this conflict...and I do not see why you accuse me of being unable to do so.



There is the side that says it is a misadventure much like the one in Vietnam...only instigated by dumber people.

I not only "see this side"...but I have often been an adherent of this take on the war.



Then there is the side that says it is a much worse scenario than the one in Vietnam probably because it was instigated by dumber people who seem unable (or unwilling) to grasp magnitude of the counterproductive catastrophe they have created.

I certainly can "see this side" too...and I gotta admit, this side has an awful lot going for it. In fact, it probably is now my favorite over the other.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:01 pm
Like I said, blind to the other side.

The side that sees the majority of Iraq at peace and grateful to be liberated from the clutches of Hussein and his murderous children. Free to now hold elections. Free to persue their lives.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:03 pm
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Like I said, blind to the other side.

The side that sees the majority of Iraq at peace and grateful to be liberated from the clutches of Hussein and his murderous children. Free to now hold elections. Free to persue their lives.


That's because this side that you describe is a f*cking fantasy, McG....

Until the situation in Iraq is cleaned up, what you've described simply does not exist.

Cycloptichorn
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:16 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
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Like I said, blind to the other side.

The side that sees the majority of Iraq at peace and grateful to be liberated from the clutches of Hussein and his murderous children. Free to now hold elections. Free to persue their lives.


That's because this side that you describe is a f*cking fantasy, McG....

Until the situation in Iraq is cleaned up, what you've described simply does not exist.

Cycloptichorn


Thanks, C.

Can you get over someone who is bothered that there are people who cannot see that side?

Ya gotta wonder what they feed these guys to buy into that crap!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:28 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
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Like I said, blind to the other side.

The side that sees the majority of Iraq at peace and grateful to be liberated from the clutches of Hussein and his murderous children. Free to now hold elections. Free to persue their lives.


That's because this side that you describe is a f*cking fantasy, McG....

Until the situation in Iraq is cleaned up, what you've described simply does not exist.

Cycloptichorn


Really? Are you sure about that? Have you been to Iraq? Have you studied anything other than what Micheal Moore has fed you? Have you spoken with the people that are not involved with the insurgents?

I believe that too many people fail to see the positive results of our invasion of Iraq and want only to dwell on the negatives. This blindness has led to the mass anti-American sentiments that have been spread routinely throughout this forum.

Let me ask you something, have you asked Bill for the link in his signature? If not, you should.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:44 pm
To those who think that Iraqis are 'at peace' in any way, imagine what it would be like to have to worry about roadside bombs EVERY DAY in EVERY TOWN in your country. Or, how about a 60% unemployment rate? Or having 2 dead relatives from a bomb last month?

Peace? We haven't brought peace to the region, not by a long shot...

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:50 pm
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Really? Are you sure about that? Have you been to Iraq? Have you studied anything other than what Micheal Moore has fed you? Have you spoken with the people that are not involved with the insurgents?


No, I haven't been. Yes, I've studied plenty that Micheal Moore didn't tell me (In fact, I've never studied anything he DID say; I didn't even see F9/11). Yes, I've spoken with Iraqis (and American soldiers) who are not part of the insurgency.

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I believe that too many people fail to see the positive results of our invasion of Iraq and want only to dwell on the negatives. This blindness has led to the mass anti-American sentiments that have been spread routinely throughout this forum.


I believe that too many people fail to see the negative results of our invasion of Iraq and want only to dwell on the positive. This blindness has led to the mass anti-American sentiments that have been spread routinely throughout this world.

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Let me ask you something, have you asked Bill for the link in his signature? If not, you should.


I listened to that a long time ago. One person's opinion doesn't mean sh*t - unless it supports your beliefs, right? Then it's proof.

I would suggest you read http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/ if you're looking for info on how things really are in the region. But, of course; it is merely one opinion.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:51 pm
You seem to be thinking I am suggesting peace is reigning supreme. I'm not.

I am suggesting that the main conflict is centralized around Central Iraq, Sunni country if you will. The Kurds and Shia are getting along quite well these days and seem to be taking to their freedom quite well. When was the last time you heard of any major, continuous conflict taking place in those regions? It's been awhile.

These are the people, a majority of Iraq, that I refer to. Their lives have genuinely improved directly as a result of our actions. They no longer live in fear of Saddam's death squads. They are actually getting on with their lives.

The conflict in central Iraqwill end eventually. There will be elections Jan 30 and Iraq will have a freely elected government that will create laws and see to the security of their country with American and Amaerican ally help. When it is done, America will leave and Iraq will be a free country.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:53 pm
That's a pipe dream, McG, re everything falling into place after the election. But that's merely MY opinion. We shall see...
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:55 pm
I understand what you're saying, and while I'm sure that there are many many people in Iraq who are doing better now than they were before, there are still a huge amount of people who live in fear. This fact cannot be ignored.

Do you seriously believe elections are going to change ANYTHING in Iraq? At all? Or that the elections will even go off, McG? Think about the fiasco a BADLY run election will be.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 12:58 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I would suggest you read http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/ if you're looking for info on how things really are in the region. But, of course; it is merely one opinion.

Cycloptichorn


If this is what you are basing your opinions on, I am sorry for you. And him.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 01:01 pm
Why? I've been reading Raed since before the war began, and he's had both positive and negative news about it...

Go back and read the archives when the war had just begun and was just ended (major conflict, anyways) and you'll see what I mean. You may have to look at his old site, http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/

Cycloptichorn
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 01:03 pm
Lemme just take a shot at a couple of these daydreams.

McGentrix wrote:
These are the people, a majority of Iraq, that I refer to. Their lives have genuinely improved directly as a result of our actions.


You gotta be kidding???

The majority of Iraqis think their lives have improved directly as a result of our actions?

Do you suppose they are insane...or that they are fellow conservatives???


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They no longer live in fear of Saddam's death squads.


You got that right!

But they now live in fear of American troops...and the terrorists that are part and parcel of Saddam's departure.


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They are actually getting on with their lives.


And their deaths, too. You forgot that, McG. Lotta that death stuff going on...unless you wanna blame that on the media.


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The conflict in central Iraqwill end eventually.


The entire planet is going to end eventually.



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There will be elections Jan 30 and Iraq will have a freely elected government that will create laws and see to the security of their country with American and Amaerican ally help.


Well, we can all hope that happens. I certainly do.

But history tells us this is probably not going to happen at all....and I even have doubts that anything truly resembling a "freely elected government" will occur either.

Iraq is worse than Chicago in that respect.



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When it is done, America will leave and Iraq will be a free country.


Right!

Like Vietnam!
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