Diversity of Everything but Thought

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First of all the people at the fair agreed to have pies thrown at them and the speakers at schools did not. You are speaking about apples and oranges.

I make the point of magnitude. Tico earlier brought up the notion that this act is a crime. As if that settles very much at all. So is speeding. We'll assume Tico has been guilty of this. Perhaps fudging on his tax return. We'll assume you have rolled through a stop sign on some dark and abandoned road once or twice. So let's toss you and Tico in jail too, you fascist bastards. Either of you ever slugged someone? Of course, a ceam pie is way way more injurious than a driven fist.

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It's fine that you don't mind pies being thrown at people, but that doesn't mean others have to like it. It's a difference of opinion. I know if it were I, I would want those little fascist bastards thrown in jail.

"[t]hey only have left-wing speakers on campuses like Berkeley and Harvard."

Lash wrote:

Conservatives don't throw pies.

They just vote, and go back to work.

The liberals must have too much spare time. Maybe they should use all that leisure to come up with a reason to exist, or something.

Ya figure? Three pie targets:

- A Liberal Prime Minister
- San Franciso mayor Gavin Newsom
- Sierra Club president

Baldimo wrote:

I know if it were I, I would want those little fascist bastards thrown in jail.

and what should be done with conservative pie-throwers?

Mayoral candidate Matt Gonzalez and past and possible future presidential hopeful Nader spoke in support of fellow Green Party member Camejo, who took just over 5 percent in the election last November. Nader took a pie in the face just after lecturing the press on their role in not turning the state recall into a media circus.

Nader hurled the pie back, striking a bystander.

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First of all the people at the fair agreed to have pies thrown at them and the speakers at schools did not. You are speaking about apples and oranges.

I make the point of magnitude. Tico earlier brought up the notion that this act is a crime. As if that settles very much at all. So is speeding. We'll assume Tico has been guilty of this. Perhaps fudging on his tax return. We'll assume you have rolled through a stop sign on some dark and abandoned road once or twice. So let's toss you and Tico in jail too, you fascist bastards. Either of you ever slugged someone? Of course, a ceam pie is way way more injurious than a driven fist.

...Speeding is a traffic infraction - I think my last such ticket was well over 10 years ago ... youthful indiscretion...

Ticomaya wrote:

...Speeding is a traffic infraction - I think my last such ticket was well over 10 years ago ... youthful indiscretion...

A few points:

1) Are you claiming not to have exceeded the speed limit at any time in the last 10 years? As others have mentioned, being caught is not the measure of whether a crime was committed.
2) Youthful indiscretion? How old do you think these pie-throwers are? I fail to see how you can excuse your own actions by this method and still hold them accountable for theirs.
3) You have inadvertently scored a point for the other side when you point out the relative severity of these illegal acts. I maintain that a pie in the face, when no one is injured, is not a serious crime, no matter what statute one could charge the pie-er under.

DrewDad wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

...Speeding is a traffic infraction - I think my last such ticket was well over 10 years ago ... youthful indiscretion...

A few points:

1) Are you claiming not to have exceeded the speed limit at any time in the last 10 years? As others have mentioned, being caught is not the measure of whether a crime was committed.
2) Youthful indiscretion? How old do you think these pie-throwers are? I fail to see how you can excuse your own actions by this method and still hold them accountable for theirs.
3) You have inadvertently scored a point for the other side when you point out the relative severity of these illegal acts. I maintain that a pie in the face, when no one is injured, is not a serious crime, no matter what statute one could charge the pie-er under.

1) Did I say that? I regularly exceed the posted speed limits - by a few MPH. Again, not a crime .. a traffic infraction.

2) What has the fact that I referred to my last speeding ticket as a "youthful indiscretion" have to do with pie throwing? The fact that I was young has little to do with excuse or justification, and a lot to do with explanation. The acts of the pie throwers are immature, so it is no surprise they are youthful. But the fact of their youth does not excuse their actions.

3) I have never claimed a pie in the face to be a "serious" crime ... but have maintained it is a crime ... a misdemeanor battery. It remains so, regardless of your sense of its seriousness, or lack thereof. It remains so, in contrast to a traffic infraction, which is not a crime.