Diversity of Everything but Thought

OMG: did I have to read that with a mouthful of coke?

um well sorry about that.

Guess ya have a nose full of coke now.

Hey-yo!

Cycloptichorn

Well, I did!

Ba-da-bing!

blatham-

Might I suggest that before you look at the phrase "liberal bias" you scrutinise the phrase "university setting" with Thornstein Veblen's The Higher Learning in America close at hand.

spendius.

Fox, you are being willfully illiterate. The study was funded by a group headed by Lynne Cheney.

http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipients/naf.htm

I never said that isn't any liberal bias in universities. I wouldn't personally know since I have not even stepped inside one much less attended one.

I am saying that the fact that this particular study gets its funding from a majority of conservative organizations with some very conservative people serving in these organizations adds another element to the debate which should be taken into consideration from reasonable people when discussing this particular study.

Yes, unless you come up with some compelling evidence that there is wide-spread harm to students.



If. If the sky were green, I'd always have an accessory to match my eyes.



I disagree.

The Higher Learning in America was, perhaps, seen as a scathing remonstration on the then current (1919) habit of evaluting academic performance by economic/business (practical) measurements. Of course, higher education during Veblens era was limited to a higher strata of the well-doers in his society and does not forsee the effects of the G.I Bill when higher education was made available to the unwashed masses. Thus we have, following WW II, a minimizing of conspicous elitism with an even greater emphasis on consumption/waste. A turning point, if you will, from the isolation of the Clergy/Law/Medicine/Academia. The ivory tower was now cranking out insurance salesman/MBA's that were little more then marginally trained technicians. The slope downward has been Malthusian ever since. More education has produced less educated citizens. Critical thought/evaluation has digressed to opting for the Plasma vs the LED, big-screen media rooms have replaced the library. The, now poorly educated masses, are yelling, demanding, funding by mandate, that "liberal education" ie Ivory Tower elitists be tossed out and replaced with "trainers".

Damn liberal education of yours, dys.

Yeah, I'm an excellent example of "education wasted on the riff-raff"

You and me both.

For sure dyslexy

But that isn't the point.Veblen's book is the point.He was a sod buster.

And less of the "unwashed " if you don't mind.I get washed once a day.

spendius.

What's all this nonsense about a "remedy?" Surely, Foxfyre, you're not suggesting the imposition of quotas? Or government mandates? Or the creation of a federal oversight bureacracy? Really, your reticence to identify any particular remedy for this "problem" is, I think, intended to mask your support of a big-government solution. For shame!

But the remedy shouldn't require any government intervention at all. Conservatives always talk about the efficiency of market solutions, so why shouldn't the market provide the solution in this case? After all, colleges compete like any other businesses. And businesses that provide bad services or products should (all things being equal) be less successful than their competitors. So if a liberal bias among a college's professoriate is deemed by consumers (i.e. students) to be undesirable, they are free to go to a competitor. Students, in other words, should be tossing their Ivy League admissions letters into the wastebasket and going to Regent University or Grove City College or any of the top ten conservative colleges listed by the Young America's Foundation.

If enough students choose conservative colleges over their purportedly "liberal" rivals, then the former will prosper and the latter will either suffer, dwindle, and die or else adapt their product to be more competitive. The remedy for liberal colleges, therefore, is simple: better conservative colleges.

...and doesn't the fact that most Americans don't recognize liberal bias as a problem make the argument that it isn't a widespread and systematic problem?

Remember, gentlemen: this thread isn't about silly things like logic; it's about confirming one's beliefs.

Cycloptichorn

Oh, you are soooo getting coal in your stocking this year!

It's actually rather cold here; a useful gift!

Cycloptichorn

Tee hee, McG. You know coal is clean now.

Excellent point.