Pentagon Board Report: "US 'alienating' world's Muslims"

So you think that governments, like that of Pakistan, who write tenets of the majority religion into laws for all, are a good idea? You are an advocate for basing our government on tenets of a religion?

"The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other."

"In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country."

"I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors…; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power."

But this is no Cold War. We call it a war on terrorism ― but Muslims in contrast see a
history-shaking movement of Islamic restoration. This is not simply a religious revival,
however, but also a renewal of the Muslim World itself. And it has taken form through
many variant movements, both moderate and militant, with many millions of adherents
― of which radical fighters are only a small part. Moreover, these movements for
restoration also represent, in their variant visions, the reality of multiple identities within
Islam.

If there is one overarching goal they share, it is the overthrow of what Islamists call the
"apostate" regimes: the tyrannies of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan, and the Gulf
states. They are the main target of the broader Islamist movement, as well as the actual
fighter groups. The United States finds itself in the strategically awkward ?- and
potentially dangerous ?- situation of being the longstanding prop and alliance partner of
these authoritarian regimes. Without the U.S. these regimes could not survive. Thus the
U.S. has strongly taken sides in a desperate struggle that is both broadly cast for all
Muslims and country-specific.23

This is the larger strategic context, and it is acutely uncomfortable: U.S. policies and
actions are increasingly seen by the overwhelming majority of Muslims as a threat to the
survival of Islam itself. Three recent polls of Muslims show an overwhelming conviction
that the U.S. seeks to "dominate" and "weaken" the Muslim World.24 Not only is every
American initiative and commitment in the Muslim World enmeshed in the larger
dynamic of intra-Islamic hostilities ?- but Americans have inserted themselves into this
intra-Islamic struggle in ways that have made us an enemy to most Muslims.
Therefore, in stark contrast to the Cold War, the United States today is not seeking to
contain a threatening state/empire, but rather seeking to convert a broad movement within
Islamic civilization to accept the value structure of Western Modernity ?- an agenda
hidden within the official rubric of a "War on Terrorism."

But if the strategic situation is wholly unlike the Cold War, our response nonetheless has
tended to imitate the routines and bureaucratic responses and mindset that so
characterized that era. In terms of strategic communication especially, the Cold War
emphasized:

• Dissemination of information to "huddled masses yearning to be free." Today we
reflexively compare Muslim "masses" to those oppressed under Soviet rule. This is a
strategic mistake. There is no yearning-to-be-liberated-by-the-U.S. groundswell
among Muslim societies ?- except to be liberated perhaps from what they see as
apostate tyrannies that the U.S. so determinedly promotes and defends.
• An enduringly stable propaganda environment. The Cold War was a status quo
setting that emphasized routine message-packaging ?- and whose essential objective
was the most efficient enactment of the routine. In contrast the situation in Islam
today is highly dynamic, and likely to move decisively in one direction or another.
The U.S. urgently needs to think in terms of promoting actual positive change.
• An acceptance of authoritarian regimes as long as they were anti-communist. This
could be glossed over in our message of freedom and democracy because it was the
main adversary only that truly mattered. Today, however, the perception of intimate
U.S. support of tyrannies in the Muslim World is perhaps the critical vulnerability in
American strategy. It strongly undercuts our message, while strongly promoting that
of the enemy.

It is not really a view! More a statistical model

nimh wrote:

Hey, I dont mind anyone pointing out that Yushchenko also just rose up through the ranks of apparatchiks, and that he was himself a Prime Minister under Kuchma not so long ago. He left not because he was already possessed by a revolutionary fervour for systemic change, but primarily just because he proponed a course of stricter market reforms than Kuchma would allow. Ever since though, he's become a focal point for the opposition against the corrupt, authoritarian Kuchma regime, and now the fraud that kept him from the Presidency has become the focus for much of the Ukrainian people's impatience and longing for something more normal, something more like the West, more like Europe, something more free and more fair and more transparent. That used to be the people the West would support; Reagan surely did.

What about the antisemitic element of the Youschenko group? I mean, the claims of 400,000 Jews invading the Ukraine in WW-II?

It is not really a view! More a statistical model. If anyone spends time in France, Germany, Netherlands or these type of western countries and can honestly say that islam is not taking over the world, then I will be amazed.

well, it was reported that 5% of Netherlands was muslim. Germany is even more. Add the fact that the Muslim rate has the highest birth rate of all europeans, plus the rate of muslim refugee influx, how long before Europe is a muslim continent?

well, it was reported that 5% of Netherlands was muslim. Germany is even more. Add the fact that the Muslim rate has the highest birth rate of all europeans, plus the rate of muslim refugee influx, how long before Europe is a muslim continent?

The average turkish family in germany has 6 or 7 children.

My estimates are that by 2030, muslims will be the majority in germany.