Blacks and women celebrate Condi Rice.

nimh wrote:

I'm a little confused about how, when a Madison talk radio host says something demeaning, it represents the problem with or mindset of "the liberals" or "the Democrats", but when Democratic (and liberal) Senator Russ Feingold then openly condemns it, that, eh, does not say anything about liberals, remains irrelevant.

I mean, Lash has been condemning "the liberals" or "the Democrats" for being racist about this. I see some irony in a piece of 'evidence' being trotted out that includes the state's foremost Democrat liberal actually condemning it.

Its like if Gungasnake were to say something offensive and Lash were to condemn him for it, and I would quote the whole interaction as evidence of how "the conservatives/Republicans" are typically offensive.

Just doesnt make sense to me, but that could just be me I guess.

It isn't just you - it's ridiculous - but evidence of the entrenched enmity and tendency to no longer see the "enemy" as anything but a sort of humungous, undifferentiated, mob - defined by the worst public utterances of its most extreme fringes - that has become typical of the more extreme posters here from both sides.

nimh wrote:

I'm a little confused about how, when a Madison talk radio host says something demeaning, it represents the problem with or mindset of "the liberals" or "the Democrats", but when Democratic (and liberal) Senator Russ Feingold then openly condemns it, that, eh, does not say anything about liberals, remains irrelevant.

I mean, Lash has been condemning "the liberals" or "the Democrats" for being racist about this. I see some irony in a piece of 'evidence' being trotted out that includes the state's foremost Democrat liberal actually condemning it.

Its like if Gungasnake were to say something offensive and Lash were to condemn him for it, and I would quote the whole interaction as evidence of how "the conservatives/Republicans" are typically offensive.

Just doesnt make sense to me, but that could just be me I guess.

It isn't just you - it's ridiculous - but evidence of the entrenched enmity and tendency to no longer see the "enemy" as anything but a sort of humungous, undifferentiated, mob - defined by the worst public utterances of its most extreme fringes - that has become typical of the more extreme posters here from both sides.

I will not stand for you saying I called you a racist, dlowan.

Larry was being sarcastic on another thread. That is your source for the information that Bush refers to his NSA as "Brown Sugar"? And, you took that and ran about saying you have heard Bush calls her that?

I don't need to add to that. It speaks for itself.

I will not stand for you saying I called you a racist, dlowan.

Larry was being sarcastic on another thread. That is your source for the information that Bush refers to his NSA as "Brown Sugar"? And, you took that and ran about saying you have heard Bush calls her that?

I don't need to add to that. It speaks for itself.

Lash wrote:

I will not stand for you saying I called you a racist, dlowan.

Larry was being sarcastic on another thread. That is your source for the information that Bush refers to his NSA as "Brown Sugar"? And, you took that and ran about saying you have heard Bush calls her that?

I don't need to add to that. It speaks for itself.

I don't think there is a source other than Doonsbury. But then, sometimes, political satire can have an element of truth.

Well-- let's put it to rest.

Is calling Condi Rice "Aunt Jemima" a racist comment?

Oh, you're not calling them racist.

That's good.

(That's how I read it, as well.)

And sure, Aunt Jemima was stupid. (Er, since there has been this wondrous transformation of former anti-PCers, let me clarify that I'm saying the Aunt Jemima COMMENT was stupid, not Aunt Jemima herself. If she existed.)

I am trying to figure out if they are racist - I can't see that the little bird one is - mebbe sexist - but I think any gender and race would look fine as that little bird (having just spent an 'orrible five months near the seats of power).

The aluminium tubes - I suppose that is a Gone With the Wind reference? "I don't know nuthin' about birthin' no babies, Miss Scarlett!" ????

Hmmm - it wouldn't be racist, I think, if she were not black - or is any reference to GWTW racist these days?

Damn it! It probably IS racist - which is a bummer - cos I think it encapsulates the horror of actually being asked to do something that you have only had to talk about before.

I suppose the other one is said to be racist cos of the "brown sugar" reference?

I do not know American mores enough to comment on that - but the rest of the content is very cutting and effective.

I shall leave it to Murricans to say if Brown Sugar is racist in such circumstances - I think it a demeaning way to refer to someone - I would certainly see it as somewhat sexist - but pretty funny despite that.

Damn it! It probably IS racist - which is a bummer - cos I think it encapsulates the horror of actually being asked to do something that you have only had to talk about before.

dlowan wrote:

I am trying to figure out if they are racist - I can't see that the little bird one is - mebbe sexist - but I think any gender and race would look fine as that little bird (having just spent an 'orrible five months near the seats of power).

The aluminium tubes - I suppose that is a Gone With the Wind reference? "I don't know nuthin' about birthin' no babies, Miss Scarlett!" ????

Hmmm - it wouldn't be racist, I think, if she were not black - or is any reference to GWTW racist these days?

Damn it! It probably IS racist - which is a bummer - cos I think it encapsulates the horror of actually being asked to do something that you have only had to talk about before.

I suppose the other one is said to be racist cos of the "brown sugar" reference?

I do not know American mores enough to comment on that - but the rest of the content is very cutting and effective.

I shall leave it to Murricans to say if Brown Sugar is racist in such circumstances - I think it a demeaning way to refer to someone - I would certainly see it as somewhat sexist - but pretty funny despite that.

Making excuses for the sexist and highly racist cartoon of Condi as Butterfly McQueen nursing missles--making excuses for the Brown Sugar comment--admitting it is sexist an then saying it's funny anyway... You've lost the right to say anything to anyone about racism, IMO.

This isn't a double entendre--or something that can be taken more than one way. I don'tfind the parrot cartoon offensive-- but in an article BBB brought about Condi, the writer again used the word 'subservient'. They are really after her in a way I haven't.