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Fox News channel heading to Canada

 
 
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 10:53 am
Yes, he made some telling points Cav.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 10:55 am
panzade wrote:
Yes, he made some telling points Cav.


It must have been the LSE poly-sci education.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 10:59 am
How hard would it be to find 10 similar articles before I found 100 from canadian authors stating the opposite?


(This is strictly rhetorical as I have NO desire to actually do so, just making a point...)
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:06 am
Well, I know y'all don't get the National Post down there, but here is a snippet from today's top news:

'Very serious' matter

"Stephen Harper, the [hyper-conservative] Opposition Leader, raised fresh allegations in the Commons yesterday that the Liberal government may have been penetrated by the Italian Mafia after a published report linked former Cabinet minister Alfonso Gagliano to the powerful New York-based Bonanno crime family."

See, we don't need Fox news after all.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:08 am
Seems to be that there are conservative politicians in Canada, too, including many members of parliament.

Why is it so hard for the conservative posters here to fathom the notion that Candians may, by and large, have a different world view than U.S. citizens? Sometimes the tunnel vision of the conservative posters makes my head spin.

You folks need to get out more. Turn off Fox for a while and see the world!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:14 am
It's not hard at all to understand D'artagnon. Especially when your only source of news spoon feeds you liberal tripe as a daily diet.

Fox News will be good for Canada.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:14 am
Say, remember the 80s, when writing songs for Ethiopian famine relief was a big thing? The Canadian entry was "Tears Are Not Enough." The American one was "We Are the World."
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:45 am
Foxfyre wrote:
It will be the first time in a long time that the Canadians have received both sides of many issues. This will be a good thing.


Try talking about something you know about, Foxfyre.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:48 am
Posted this in another thread, but it seems to fit into this discussion of Canadian politics and media. Here's the offering a few days ago from a columnist at the Calgary Sun. Seems there are a few enlightened ones up north after all:

Quote:
Sun, November 14, 2004
Stay home, you pathetic whining maggots
By Ian Robinson -- Calgary Sun

In the wake of the U.S. presidential election -- in which I cheerfully took a Sun assistant city editor, who figured Senator John Kerry couldn't lose, for $10 (a quick pause to gloat here) Americans disenchanted with President George W. Bush's re-election romp back into the White House, continue to deluge the Canadian immigration website.

How anybody can be unhappy with the president's re-election is beyond me.

Bush has my admiration in no small part because he manages to simultaneously annoy France and Germany, not to mention those renowned deep, geopolitical thinkers, the Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen, P-Diddy or whatever he's calling himself now, Gwynneth Paltrow and Ben Affleck.

(Interesting note about France: America invades Iraq without UN approval and America is portrayed as a barbarian striding across the world stage. Recently, France essentially invaded the Ivory Coast to protect its interests there ... without asking the UN squat. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.)

Plus, let's face it: France deserves to be annoyed by as many people as possible, as often as possible, if only for encouraging Jerry Lewis by telling him that he was a genius.

Not to mention for exporting snotty wine culture across the Atlantic so that otherwise reasonable North Americans have turned into cork-sniffing oenephiles -- although the word sounds like an exotic perversion, it just means wine-nerd -- who can actually say with a straight face: "This is a full-bodied Cabernet, rich with a full body tasting of plum, blackberry and leather cooked on an oak plank."

Anyway, the day after the U.S. election, 115,628 Americans checked out the site and those numbers haven't fallen off very much.

Before the election, some U.S. celebrities and numerous other Democrats vowed that they'd move to Canada if Bush were re-elected.

I hope I'm not alone in gently suggesting to those considering coming to Canada: Stay home, you pathetic whining maggots.

Particularly celebrities. Canada has suffered enough without having to put up with any of the Baldwin brothers or -- heaven forfend! -- Barbra Streisand.

And frankly, I don't know if we can afford to feed Michael Moore.

Bad enough that Canada became a haven for the gutless wonders of the 1960s who fled the Vietnam draft. I sometimes think that the draft dodgers welcomed by the Trudeau government were a political virus that invaded our body politic, and we still suffer the lingering effects of that illness.

Our nation's preposterous pacifism, belief in nonsense such as "soft power" and fidelity to a morally bankrupt United Nations overrun with tin-pot dictators and other left-wing idiocies, may well be traceable back to the influx of thousands of the testosterone-challenged whose allegiance to country was superceded by their allegiance to smoking dope while trying to figure out the inner meaning of Beatles songs.

We have immigrants coming to this country who have been hunted from the air by murderous Islamofascists in Sudan.

Some new Canadians survived the atrocities in Rwanda or old Europe's final convulsions of genocide in the former Yugoslavia.

We have physicians from some parts of the world who are willing to throw away their prestige and power in their homelands for the privilege of driving a cab in Moose Jaw.

As a nation, we ought to welcome our share of people fleeing genuine oppression, and those willing to gamble everything to secure a safe and decent future for their families.

But welcome a bunch of spoiled brats willing to abandon their very nation because they don't like the man elected to be their leader for the next four years?

Geez, in my entire lifetime, there was maybe one prime minister I'd trust to run a street-corner hot dog stand -- the rest of them weren't fit for much more than compost -- but it never occurred to me to emigrate.

If we close our borders to anybody, it should be these fools. They'll be easy to screen out.

They'll be the ones who are whining.




"... frankly, I don't know if we can afford to feed Michael Moore."


Laughing
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:48 am
I'm just drawing conclusions from what most of the A2K Canadians say about stuff ehBeth. Fox News has hitherto not been allowed into Canada. Are you saying that it is a bad thing that it will now be available to Canadians?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:49 am
McGentrix wrote:
I watch CKWS out of Kingston regularly. They show the typical Canadian bias towards Bush. It's hardly a secret that Canada tends to list a bit to the left.


Really? That's my hometown station. What I watch when I go to see the hamburgers.

Do you get WNPE/WNPI as well? (not asking if you watch it - just if you get it)





You do realize that, federally, Kingston's more than a bit of a right wing/conservative bastion?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 11:51 am
McGentrix wrote:
It's not hard at all to understand D'artagnon. Especially when your only source of news spoon feeds you liberal tripe as a daily diet.

Fox News will be good for Canada.


You really don't understand the range of political expression in the media here.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:26 pm
Not understanding (or even trying to understand) what people think in other parts of the world doesn't stop some of the posters here. Not even for a minute...

Of course, the same is true for some of our leaders: Either you're with us or you're against us!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:31 pm
But it has to be a two-way street doesn't it D? When is the last time one of our Canadian friends here on A2K made any kind of comment that was positive re the United States, our social or political processes or policies, our administration, or how we do things generally? Awhile back there was a whole thread on the very negative image of the U.S. held by a majority of Canadian youth.

It seems to me that if Canadians were receiving more than one-sided news, they would be more mixed in their views of the U.S. as we find among Americans.

It just makes sense to me no matter how many tell me I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:32 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
But it has to be a two-way street doesn't it D? When is the last time one of our Canadian friends here on A2K made any kind of comment that was positive re the United States, our social or political processes or policies, our administration, or how we do things generally? Awhile back there was a whole thread on the very negative image of the U.S. held by a majority of Canadian youth.

It seems to me that if Canadians were receiving more than one-sided news, they would be more mixed in their views of the U.S. as we find among Americans.

It just makes sense to me no matter how many tell me I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.


Blatham said he liked our women.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:39 pm
Damn, I made a quick glance at this topic thread and read "Fox News Channel Beheading Canada" so I thought "Well, yeah Canada is an undeveloped market"
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:41 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
But it has to be a two-way street doesn't it D? When is the last time one of our Canadian friends here on A2K made any kind of comment that was positive re the United States, our social or political processes or policies, our administration, or how we do things generally? Awhile back there was a whole thread on the very negative image of the U.S. held by a majority of Canadian youth.

It seems to me that if Canadians were receiving more than one-sided news, they would be more mixed in their views of the U.S. as we find among Americans.

It just makes sense to me no matter how many tell me I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.


I have no idea how the Canadians on A2K feel about America. No doubt many have been critical of U.S. foreign policy. From this you conclude that Canadians don't know what's going on in the U.S.?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:55 pm
D writes
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I have no idea how the Canadians on A2K feel about America. No doubt many have been critical of U.S. foreign policy. From this you conclude that Canadians don't know what's going on in the U.S.?


I can only go by the comments made by A2K Canadians that so far have been pretty much 100% critical of U.S. foreign and social policies. From this I conclude most Canadians are probably getting a very biased view of U.S. foreign and social policies. Otherwise, I believe opinions would be more mixed as they are in the U.S.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:57 pm
If posts to A2K were indicative of how most American feel, Kerry would be president-elect. I wouldn't generalize based on this sample...
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 01:05 pm
I didn't use only A2K samples but can see how that is implied. I also am a news junkie and read avidly re U.S. domestic and foreign policy. There isn't anybody out there on the left or right who is saying the Canadians like us.

Again I refer to the previous thread on this topic.
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