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SUV'S suck?

 
 
Letty
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:01 pm
Hey car people. I'm serious here. Anyone know anything about a Dodge Stratus? (think that's the name). I have an opportunity to buy one, a programmed car with 50,000 miles, for around $14,000. What do you think?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:07 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Because of the many unsafe drivers, duh!


Agreed. Driving a car is different than driving a truck. If you do not understand HOW to drive a truck, you are an unsafe driver.
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:16 pm
I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee, it hasn't been driven in a while. I didn't buy it my ex-wife did (in my name) and I was stuck with the payment. I've thought about selling it but I owe more than it's worth.
It does drive different than a car, but any car is a dangerous weapon if driven like a race car.
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:18 pm
Letty wrote:
Hey car people. I'm serious here. Anyone know anything about a Dodge Stratus? (think that's the name). I have an opportunity to buy one, a programmed car with 50,000 miles, for around $14,000. What do you think?


I don't know much about these cars, but the best way to find out is to visit a Dodge dealership and ask one of the technicians what he thinks. Most of the time they will tell you real quick if it is a problem car. Thats what I do and it has never failed me.
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Letty
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:23 pm
Thank you cannister. Already been that route, and the salesman is the one who recommended it. UhOh!
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:25 pm
Minivans not too bad
I wouldn't compare a minivan to an SUV. Minivans get better gas mileage and haul far more in terms of people and cargo. If you have more than four in your family, it is tough to get a sedan that will work for you. Most station wagons these days only seat five.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:34 pm
Letty wrote:
Hey car people. I'm serious here. Anyone know anything about a Dodge Stratus? (think that's the name). I have an opportunity to buy one, a programmed car with 50,000 miles, for around $14,000. What do you think?


Try edmunds.com kbb.com, or nadaguides.com.

Program cars often have limited options. Make sure you list all the available options when trying to get a good FMV price.
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 02:35 pm
I was talking about the mini vans for families with one kid, sorry.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:01 pm
I think that there are many good reasons for getting an SUV, however, like cjhsa said you have to know how to drive one. My take is that people started buying SUVs because they were more glamorous than minivans and station wagons.

I know people who have bought SUVs for their teenagers because they wanted them to be safe. Of course this is a mistake as most teenagers can't even drive small sedans. I wonder if it occurred to them that they might be making others less safe. The cars generally weigh more and are higher off the ground than sedans, so when an SUV hits a sedan, it's bumper is likely aimed at the sedan passengers' heads.

Disclaimer: I'm not talking about the CRVs, RAV4s and such -- I'm talking about the ones that are hard to fit in a normal parking space.
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:29 pm
Work in my world I can hardly fit a Nissan car in one of the spaces in our parking decks. Funny thing here too, this is one of the most liberal schools in the nation but SUV's dominate the landscape. I think that it's like Freeduck says the parents think that it is a safer vehicle, and IMO if they can afford to attend school here a Lexus or BMW SUV isn't a pricey option for them.

I'm not sure if the CRV'S or the like are practical either? I know that the milage is better but can you fit more than 5 people? How much cargo room is there?

Bottom line on this to me is that people are focusing on SUV's when there are millions of older cars on the road that pollute at a much worse rate than SUV's. Maybe we should work on getting those cars off the roads first? Emmission testing in the state of GA only requires cars from 2002 down to have the tests, BUT anything 20 years or older doesn't require any tests????? Something is wrong with that to me.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:34 pm
cannistershot wrote:

I'm not sure if the CRV'S or the like are practical either? I know that the milage is better but can you fit more than 5 people? How much cargo room is there?


I think they are handy for people with kids. If you've ever had to put a baby in a carseat in a sedan or (heaven forbid) a honda civic hatchback you'll see the value of a mini-suv.

Quote:

Bottom line on this to me is that people are focusing on SUV's when there are millions of older cars on the road that pollute at a much worse rate than SUV's. Maybe we should work on getting those cars off the roads first? Emmission testing in the state of GA only requires cars from 2002 down to have the tests, BUT anything 20 years or older doesn't require any tests????? Something is wrong with that to me.


Are SUVs hated because they pollute? I thought the idea was that they guzzle gas and are a danger to other vehicles. Things which might be acceptable for the right reasons.
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:40 pm
To me the pollution problem is worse, but I live in a badly polluted city, that has thousands of POS cars that smoke AND get worse gas milage than SUV's because they are not properly tuned, serviced or tested.

I agree with the taller SUV's being a danger to other cars but a honda with the wrong driver is just as bad. I saw a small Honda car wipe out 6 cars one morning because the girl was driving like her pants were on fire. She put one lady in a wheel chair (probably for life) and her car was smaller than the first one that she hit.


Now 18 wheelers make me nervous, BUT we need them on the road to survive,
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:41 pm
Oh one of the stickers that I saw that started this thread said that SUV's were gross polluters.


By the way whats up Duck, how's that vow of silence going for you?

Laughing
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:42 pm
cannistershot wrote:
To me the pollution problem is worse, but I live in a badly polluted city, that has thousands of POS cars that smoke AND get worse gas milage than SUV's because they are not properly tuned, serviced or tested.

I agree with the taller SUV's being a danger to other cars but a honda with the wrong driver is just as bad. I saw a small Honda car wipe out 6 cars one morning because the girl was driving like her pants were on fire. She put one lady in a wheel chair (probably for life) and her car was smaller than the first one that she hit.


Now 18 wheelers make me nervous, BUT we need them on the road to survive,


What do you think that accident would have looked like if she'd been driving a Ford Excursion?
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cannistershot
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:44 pm
Mass explosions and carnage.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 03:48 pm
cannistershot wrote:
Oh one of the stickers that I saw that started this thread said that SUV's were gross polluters.


By the way whats up Duck, how's that vow of silence going for you?

Laughing


The vow of silence has been delayed indefinitely. I guess I'm not sufficiently disgusted yet. I'm sure that day will come. :wink:
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 04:08 pm
I can't stand SUV's personally. I don't like the fact that they get crap MPG and most people drive them in the winter like a bunch or a-holes. Believe it or not, most of the time I see cars off the road in the winter after a good storm, they are SUV's and the good old 70's land yachts!

I heard on the radio today that they are moving the release of the new SUV hybrid to late spring. Any one interested in one?


Here's the story on it.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 05:22 pm
I thought Ford already has an SUV hybrid on the market. The Escape, I believe. Not so?

Anyhow, I think it's a great idea. I drive a Prius, but if I felt I needed an SUV, I'd definitely be interested.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 05:26 pm
Baldimo wrote:
I can't stand SUV's personally. I don't like the fact that they get crap MPG and most people drive them in the winter like a bunch or a-holes. Believe it or not, most of the time I see cars off the road in the winter after a good storm, they are SUV's and the good old 70's land yachts!

I heard on the radio today that they are moving the release of the new SUV hybrid to late spring. Any one interested in one?


Here's the story on it.


Is that the Ford or the Toyota? The Toyota highlander is slated to go hybrid soon. Now if they could just go hybrid with the Sienna...
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2004 05:40 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
I can't stand SUV's personally. I don't like the fact that they get crap MPG and most people drive them in the winter like a bunch or a-holes. Believe it or not, most of the time I see cars off the road in the winter after a good storm, they are SUV's and the good old 70's land yachts!

I heard on the radio today that they are moving the release of the new SUV hybrid to late spring. Any one interested in one?


Here's the story on it.


Is that the Ford or the Toyota? The Toyota highlander is slated to go hybrid soon. Now if they could just go hybrid with the Sienna...


It talks about the Highlander in the article. Don't know about the Ford.
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