timberlandko wrote:gungasnake wrote: The election in 00 was close only by dint of massive fraud on the part of the democrats ...
Not that it matters much, but personally, I don't think that sorta unsubstantiated allegation serves either camp. Absent records documenting significant numbers of instances of arrest, prosecution and conviction pursuant to such charges, unfounded and malicious speculation is all there is.
I believe there's substantially more than that. Polls all showed the 00 election a blowout five days before it was held, and the guys running those polls simply aren't that bad at what they do. The ONLY thing they are totally unable to account for is fraud.
It starts with all the claims of 100% voter turnout in areas in which, on a given day, half the adult population is either drunk on their asses, cracked out, flaked out, on the lam, in prison, dead (which doesn't really phase democrats for voting purposes), in exile, or otherwise incapacitated. I don't know about you, but I view those claims as an insult to my intelligence.
And then there's the scene where W. is up 60K votes in Florida with 25 minutes to go before counting is over, Algor calls up to concede, and 25 minutes later it's all but dead even. Seems obvious enough to me that somebody just manufactured 60K votes and spread them around and simply missed his tally by a couple thousand. In fact, a day or two later, they actually caught some democrat official driving around with a voting machine in the trunk of his car asnd, as usual, nothing ever came of that. That's the political equivalent of driving around with a neutron bomb in the trunk of one's car.
I mean, that's just the obvious and flagrant stuff.
