Bush supporters' aftermath thread

georgeob1 wrote:

blatham wrote:
It's a simple point.

For anyone here to have much concern as to a city mayor's competence and ethics, he or she would be a citizen of that city.

Likewise, re a governor...is he your governor?

But all Americans are affected by the competence and ethics of a President. And if he is the President of the world's most powerful and intrusive government, then the whole world has some valid concerns.

Simple stuff.

Very simple indeed. Also very self-serving coming from a Canadian living in Manhattan who doesn't like the president. .

<the crowd roars>

Sweet.

Blame ******* Canada.

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"Not at all. "No" means zero. There are normally measurable quantities of petroleum and solvents in the ordinary stormwater runoff after even an ordinary rainstorm in any city. What I am saying is that recent reports from competent agencies and laboratories that have evaluated the water samples have demonstrated conclusively that earlier media reports and your characterization of it as "toxic sludge" were and are false."

Not so. According to ABC news, just a few minutes ago, they called it sludge, because the oil spill was 2/3rds of the Valdez spill in Alaska (7/11). They also said that the sewage was extremely bad.

Better use better sources for your info, george.

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Heavy Metal poisoning???

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Yes, cadmium, lead, and mercury are highly toxic to humans and animals.

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BBB
Does anyone know the number of ground wells (instead of public water systems) in the areas poluted by the flood water? I imagine a lot due to the large rural areas. Those wells could be doomed for a very long time.

BBB

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BBB, I'm not sure New Orleans was good for ground water, because it's surrounded by the gulf and lake water with the city itself sitting below sea level. I could be wrong, since it's only a guess on my part.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

BBB, I'm not sure New Orleans was good for ground water, because it's surrounded by the gulf and lake water with the city itself sitting below sea level. I could be wrong, since it's only a guess on my part.

I was thinking primarily of Mississippi and Alabama's rural areas.

BBB

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Yes I did. Sold the place in the Filmore to take advantage of the housing bubble and moved in to the one on Paru Street in Alameda. Lots of new restaurants and bistros around Park St: fix ups everywhere in the old part of town. The old town is looking great - and even Webster street is becoming trendy. Soon it will be the East Bay version of Mill Valley. Climate as ever is perfect and I am getting reacquainted with my old haunts in SF.

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George

georgeob1 wrote:

Yes I did. Sold the place in the Filmore to take advantage of the housing bubble and moved in to the one on Paru Street in Alameda. Lots of new restaurants and bistros around Park St: fix ups everywhere in the old part of town. The old town is looking great - and even Webster street is becoming trendy. Soon it will be the East Bay version of Mill Valley. Climate as ever is perfect and I am getting reacquainted with my old haunts in SF.

A brief digression to avoid interrupting this thread. Be sure to cross the bridge to Bay Farm Island and explore Harbor Bay Isle to see the 14 years of effort I put into it.

You can pm me if you want to discuss this further.

BBB

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Keep the following in the back of your mind as federal funds start to pour into New Orleans:

WSJ: White rich elude Orleans chaos, don't want poor blacks back
John Byrne

The Wall Street Journal front-page headline reads, "Old-Line Families / Escape Worst of Flood / And Plot the Future / Mr. O'Dwyer, at His Mansion, / Enjoys Highball With Ice; / Meeting With the Mayor."

That is, however, just the beginning. According to the (paid-restricted) Journal, New Orleans' wealthy white neighborhoods emerged very much intact, while black neighborhoods are swimming in toxic sludge. The Journal piece, by Christopher Cooper, reads as something torn from the pages of Fitzgerald's iconic portrait of the roaring twenties--The Great Gatsby.

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CI, I think I briefly perused that article. Was that the one with the rich, smug-looking bastard, shirtless, whose main concern was to dart out to the pool to grab a pitcher of water for toilet-flushing purposes?

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cicerone imposter wrote:

If Bush is able to fly from Crawford to Washington DC to get involved in a brain-damaged woman's life, he certainly could have gotten involved sooner in NO where hundreds of thousands lives that includes women and children were at stake. Or, is that asking for too much of our pres?

lets assume for the moment that he had arrived in No the day of the flood,or the next.
EXactly what could he have accomplished?
Could he have rescued anyone?
Granted,he might have been able to prevent a La congressman from apprpriating rescue personnel to take him to his house.
As I understand,that clusterf@#k eventually entailed 2 trucks and a helicopter.
Bush might have prevented that.

But,if he had shown up that early,you would have accused him of staging a photo-op and nothing more/
No matter what he did,you would have found fault with him.

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The refugees who came to Albuquerque and those who went to Houston and Washington were certainly not the affluent of New Orleans. But if you can set aside political correctness for a moment of clarity and honesty, we're seeing some good things happening out of all that.

Just about the time I think I can find a way to hate the British, I run across a piece like the following. Smile

Space, food, medicine, protection: it's better here in Barbara's hall of plentySOURCE

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That's because Bush in incapable of doing anything right, mysteryman.

The man can't even ride a bicycle. He's pathetic.

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That Gerald Baker article was just as ridiculous as Barbara Bush's statements.

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Well, Bush knows how to get our country into a war very quickly. I'm sure if he used his "administration" with more brains, they could have come up with something creative much sooner.

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I agree with gus, that writer is full of horse beans.

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Maybe so, but I've witnessed the truth of it with my own eyes here in Albuquerque. The many refugees that arrived at our Convention Center here have been well cared for, provided the basic necessities, and they've all moved out now, most to go to new homes, new schools, new jobs, and a way of life far better than anything they had in New Orleans. Acccording to our local media, and what I have heard two of them say, most don't plan to go back.

Now if you have imperical knowledge to dispute that, let's have it.

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There will always be a few fortunates that emerge from a pile of **** smelling like a rose, but the stench remains on the majority.

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