Outlaw Cities

You are seeing a growing Sanctuary movement that is supported by a number of American citizens.

The proof is starting to pour out illustrating what sane people have known for many years - the science is illustrating, clearly and unequivocably that the alleged hijackers did not cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

Really Comlok???

I want to think that you are on my side.

your deep fear of addressing it illustrates clearly just how fearful you and all the other science deniers are

(if I haven't, then it probably means that this topic doesn't interest me in the slightest).

The fact that 911 conspiracy theories are popping up on just about every single ******* thread here is annoying as hell.

whatever.

1) Our immigration system is deeply flawed in that it is completely detached from economic reality. If our immigration laws were enforced to the letter, several sectors of our economy would collapse. For example, our agricultural sector would either fold up and go to Mexico (after the workers), or the price of our food would increase drastically.

2) Human behavior (including yours) is effected as much by economic reality than by laws. You drive over the speed limit. The problem of Americans downloading music and movies illegally was to give up on enforcement and change the laws. Many Americans still break the letter of the copyright laws. Since the industry realized it wasn't worth fighting in many cases, no one cares.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet.[1][2] Passed on October 12, 1998, by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of the providers of online services for copyright infringement by their users.
The DMCA's principal innovation in the field of copyright is the exemption from direct and indirect liability of Internet service providers and other intermediaries. This exemption was adopted by the European Union in the Electronic Commerce Directive 2000. The Copyright Directive 2001 implemented the 1996 WIPO Copyright Treaty in the EU.

3) The real battle of immigration is over American Culture. The biggest disagreement between Gunga and I (which is mirrored by many Republicans in Congress, and by Trump in some of his tweets) is what American Culture means.

There is the idea that people going to a Mosque, or speaking Spanish is damaging to real Americans. Many of us disagree. Note: I am being careful here not to use the word "racism". I am trying to describe a real difference in as fair a way as possible.

It is a fact that most people in Boston and New York have no problem with hearing multiple languages in public, wearing religious garb or many types or having different skin colors or foods.

We feel that there is a misguided goal of immigration policy, to favor the traditional White Protestant culture over every other culture. That is why when Republicans talk about the threat to "American Culture" it makes me respond defiantly. To my family, speaking Spanish is a big part of American culture.

4) If we had an immigration policy that was fair, economically sound, and accepting cultural diversity, then I would support a strong enforcement.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/03/07/califonia-student-group-bans-american-flag-from-lobby/

We want people who want to actually be Americans, and while we are at it, can we get rid of the *-American? The only people who should be *-American are those who were actually born in another country and became US citizens. Anyone born here is an American, plain and simple, using the hyphen only serves to divide us as a culture.

1) When you say "we want people...." who do include in the we? Who who get's to speak for Americans? I am not OK with you telling me what "I" want.

2) What you say "actually be Americans" what does that mean... and who decides what it means to be an American. The lifestyle and values of White people in Houston is quite a bit different than the lifestyle of White people in Boston or New York.

Then of course you add Black people (many of whom were brought over during the barbaric slave trade),

Hispanic people (some of whom were living in the United States before the United States existed)

All of these groups have as much right as anyone claim to be American in spite of different religions, languages, customs and attitudes.

Would you suggest that African-Americans are less American because of the hyphen in the way they describe themselves? What about Jewish-Americans; a term that was pretty important historically when Jews weren't consider to be American by many White Protestants.

If you are going to say things like "We want people to actually be Americans" you are going to run into problems with lots of us who don't think that your position on immigration isn't American.

You are violating the core values of the American experiment; the right of each person to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness regardless of their likes, customs or ethnic background.

America doesn't belong to a single ethnically, culturally homogeneous group of people that act and think alike.

"We" would be the majority of Americans, not the extreme left of the immigration debate. My views on immigration on more on par with main stream America, yours are more on the fringe.

I don't really believe that you are this self-deluded.

Not that it matters anyway. A majority of Americans support a ban on Assault rifles, and a majority of Americans voted for Barack Obama twice. (Edit: And I just checked, it is true that a majority of Americans support giving a pathway to citizenship to people in the country illegally now after meeting a background check etc.)

Your hang up on race and color proves this.