I would honestly like to hear your thoughtful response to what you think the end state of a fair peace between the Palestinians and the Israeli's would look like (these back band forth contrarian comments aren't very enlightening).
A fair peace would have been Ehud Barak's Taba offer. Or Ehud Olmert's similar offer from sometime around 2008.
But it's too late. Given all the outrages perpetrated against Israel, there is no longer a way to achieve such an outcome. And quite frankly the Palestinians have forfeited any right to fair treatment that they once possessed.
First of all, I believe these things to be true
1) Anyone living in a modern democracy should have an equal vote and an equal political voice (i.e. having people live in a country without the right to vote is a bad thing).
2) People who have been living somewhere for generations shouldn't be expelled by either military or police force, or by planned laws to target a minority.
3) Any State (whether Israel or Palestine) must be sovereign with the ability to control their own economy and borders. Any state must be secure. And any state must be economically viable.
Do you except these premises?
Regarding #1, Israel being a Jewish democracy, I see no problem with restricting the right to vote in Israel to only people who practice the Jewish faith.
Regarding #2, I'm unsure. It sounds like a way to justify theft. But had the Palestinians been willing to achieve a fair peace, I'd have found a two-state solution based on 1967 borders to be reasonable.
Regarding #3, Israel is the only party who is having their security threatened here. Also, I think there are plenty of impoverished states out there.
I also recognize the term "economic viability" as a term used by the Palestinians when they lie about Israeli peace offers. I do not recognize Palestinian lies as entitling the Palestinians to anything other than a smack across the head.
I am going to ask you to come up with what you think would be a fair solution to this Israel/Palestine problem... and how you would propose we get there?
A fair solution had Israel been treated fairly from the start? I'd say Ehud Barack's offer to the Palestinians at Taba was fair. And also Ehud Olmert's offer to the Palestinians from around 2008.
How do we get there? We don't. We can't. The Palestinians and their demented supporters have ended all possibility of it happening. YOU've ended all possibility of it happening.
A fair solution now, given the outrageous way Israel has been treated all these years? Have Israel finish building the Security Fence, including around Jerusalem and in the other places where Israel is being pressured not to complete it. Have Israel declare the Security Fence as their official international border and annex all land west of the Fence.
East of the Fence, increase Israel's military presence in Areas B and C, so that when the Palestinians unilaterally declare their own state, Palestinian sovereignty is restricted to Area A alone.
If you think the answer is to expel the Palestinians from the land of Israel (including the occupied territories), then I suppose our world views are to divergent to come up with a solution.
It's an interesting idea. The Palestinians certainly deserve it after everything they've done. But I think it would be easier to just use force to confine their state to Area A alone.
I am really hoping that instead of contrarian positions you can provide a thoughtful answer. I would like to hear what you think is a good way forward that will be fair to both sides.
It's too late. There is no longer any such way forward. You ruined it.
Build a time machine, go back in time, and prevent you and your compatriots from treating Israel unfairly every single time they tried to make peace.