Obama steps away from Israel

Reverse 0bama's meddling.

Only anti-Israel zealots consider giving up illegitimate and impossible demands to be "concessions"

These demands based on international resolutions--those selfsame ones that Israel holds up as a basis of their legitimacy, ironically--and treaties are considered illegitimate by pro-Zionist fanatics.

Like what, for example?

Playing dumb doesn't become you.

Heh.

International resolutions that aren't worth the paper they are written upon.

Stop the crap.

If you are such a defender of the downtrodden then you should be able to acknowledge that these resolutions have been engineered by autocratic violators of human rights.

It's an international resolution that the Zionists point to when they speak of their legitimacy. You can't cherry pick the ones that suit your ends. That's crap.

The Elohist authors were writing of Jacob just after 800 BC. The Yahwist authors wrote of Abraham just after 720 BC.

Also, the description of the region in the stories of Jacob matches the landscape of Late Iron Age I (1050 BC to 950 BC), which indicates that the stories about Jacob were composed during this period.



We can't rely on Biblical chronology though because we don't have the original stories. The Yahwist authors rewrote the stories to make Abraham into Jacob's grandfather. Then the Priestly authors rewrote them again to make Abraham a citizen of a prestigious Babylonian city.

Given that Egyptian records only start recording the existence of the Hebrew Deity around 1400 BC, none of these stories would have happened before this date.



Archaeology places King Saul's reign in Late Iron Age I (1050 BC to 950 BC).

We don't have a date for the composition of the escape from Egypt, but it was composed before any of the other stories.

The stories of Jacob, King Saul, and the escape from Egypt had to have been passed down verbally until 800 BC when the Ehohist authors started writing them down.



When ancient authors tried to do such things, they invariably left out of their stories places and powers that existed in the time the story was set, but no longer existed at the time the story was composed.

And at the same time they included places and powers that didn't exist when the story was set, but did exist in the time the story was composed.

Because of that it is possible to separate the cases of late authorship from the genuinely ancient stories.



I'm sure the Omrides were not to the tastes of the religious hardliners, but the main reason they were put into the background was because the northern Israelite kingdom no longer existed and the Yahwist authors needed to concoct a fake history that would legitimize Judah as the rightful government over the former northerners.



It was the kings before Jehoash who were menaced by Hazael.

Jehoash was the one who became vassal to Assyria and then reconquered what Hazael had taken from the previous kings.

I realize that it is better to be free and independent instead of being a vassal, but that does not mean that being a vassal is all bad. The fact that they were a vassal to Assyria still means that they got their former territory back.

And as vassal to Assyria they were able to participate in the Assyrian economic system. Under Jeroboam II, the northern Israelite kingdom prospered greatly from being the Assyrian Empire's primary source of olive oil.



Yes. Manasseh was Judah's version of Jeroboam II.

Throw them all out then.

Israel still comes out on top.

That would be a human rights violation. Nations would intervene. It would merely produce more violence and strife and Israel would be further from the peace that it claims to seek.

Nonsense

You and your fellow anti-Israel leftists are quite adept at tossing around nonsense about "International Law" and "UN Resolutions"

Why on earth should Israel give real credence to UN resolutions when, on more than one occasion, its Arab neighbors launched war against it; in total disregard for the UN resolution(s) that gave birth to it?

If you want to find the core reason for the current problems, look to those wars.

I wouldn't think they do, especially after Daniel Patrick Moynihan made his voice heard at the UN, years ago.

Like I said, the Zoinists toss around international law and UN resolutions also, when it's convenient to their ends. They want to have their cake and eat it to, as it were.

Their neighbors have signed peace treaties with them, some issues are unresolved with others, but the crux of the conflict in Palestine is the Zionists' oppression of the Palestinian peoples. The wars were a reaction to that.

Right. The Arab dictatorships of the time went to war with Israel to help the poor Palestinians.

That's the gist of it, your incredulity notwithstanding.

If an outside power were to attempt to use force against Israel, and if Israel could not handle the threat conventionally, Israel would use nuclear weapons, and rightly so.



After Israel has destroyed all the people who attack them, they will have the peace that they desire.

M'kay.