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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 09:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
More importantly, the US is not the world's police. Their neighbors have more responsibility for what's going on. The UN should be the one to make any military decision.

We may not have any "obligation" to be global police. But if we choose to do so, we have the right to slaughter anyone who tries to stop us.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:03 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

So should there be any federal environmental standards?


Sure there should. Flint's water pipes are not a safety hazard that would cross state or federal boundaries.

Pollution does.
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:12 pm
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-fmr-trump-adviser-carter-page-919187011826

How many more will come out?
camlok
 
  0  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:16 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
But if we choose to do so, we have the right to slaughter anyone who tries to stop us.


Why is there such a deep, pervasive evil in the USA, one that makes the Nazis look like choir boys.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:18 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
Well, the following is mightily depressing. I have the feeling as more far right conservatives retain power, I am not going to be comfortable with much of anything in the coming years.

What's wrong with having judges who support the law?


revelette1 wrote:
Legally it might be likely Trump can pass this off as a security measure against "terrorist" so it will eventually pass as long as the language is careful enough not to make a distinction between Muslims and minority religions in the countries affected by the travel ban or to affect individual states adversely.

Yep.


revelette1 wrote:
However, in reality it is nothing but a bill designed for Trump to carry out his campaign promise of keeping Muslims out of the US.

That isn't what he promised. He only said that he would order a temporary ban while he came up with new stronger vetting standards.
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:18 pm
@camlok,
You're a sad case.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:20 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
This will sound terrible, but rather than some 59 bombs that don't matter for reasons that aren't our business, we should make a couple of bombs unforgettable when it is undeniably our business.

Why don't cruise missiles matter?

Opposing atrocities is very much our business.
Builder
 
  1  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:46 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Opposing atrocities is very much our business.


Creating them, even more so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfkYG09vCg

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camlok
 
  0  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:51 pm
@glitterbag,
Why is there such overwhelming support for this deep, pervasive evil that exists in the USA?
Builder
 
  -2  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 10:55 pm
@camlok,
She's "deep state". There's more than a few of them here.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 11:20 pm
At first, the Trump administration deliberately ignored the Jewish victims of the Holocaust. Now again. (Sean Spicer claimed that Hitler did not use chemical agents to kill people during the Second World War.)
First the Nazi regime murdered German citizens. Then it murdered others.
And "holocaust centers" are and were known as 'concentration camps'.

It's more than a pity that this administration is not clear on what Hitler in fact did.
camlok
 
  0  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 11:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
It's more than a pity that this administration is not clear on what Hitler in fact did.


It's much more the pity that most deny the fact that the US has done much worse than what Hitler did. And for over 200 years.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Tue 11 Apr, 2017 11:29 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Adolph was recognised for his socialist policies, without which, Germany would have sunk into an abyss of public debt. Time magazine recognised his skills, and awarded him their Man of the Year award.

The Allied forces were in collusion with Adolph, in regards to shipping Polish jews to Palestine, as part of their agenda to resettle the West Bank for Israel.

These are verifiable facts.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:09 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Adolph was recognised for his socialist policies, ...

These are verifiable facts.
Another of those remarks showing your ignorance of the terrible history in Germany.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It's not legendary, Walter, but it is recognised as fact.

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Greatest single news event of 1938 took place on September 29, when four statesmen met at the Führerhaus, in Munich, to redraw the map of Europe. The three visiting statesmen at that historic conference were Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain of Great Britain, Premier Edouard Daladier of France, and Dictator Benito Mussolini of Italy. But by all odds the dominating figure at Munich was the German host, Adolf Hitler.

Führer of the German people, Commander-in-Chief of the German Army, Navy & Air Force, Chancellor of the Third Reich, Herr Hitler reaped on that day at Munich the harvest of an audacious, defiant, ruthless foreign policy he had pursued for five and a half years. He had torn the Treaty of Versailles to shreds. He had rearmed Germany to the teeth— or as close to the teeth as he was able. He had stolen Austria before the eyes of a horrified and apparently impotent world.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:37 am
@Builder,
I'm not sure what you want to tell, but certainly you might know German history better than I do.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
At first, the Trump administration deliberately ignored the Jewish victims of the Holocaust. Now again. (Sean Spicer claimed that Hitler did not use chemical agents to kill people during the Second World War.)
First the Nazi regime murdered German citizens. Then it murdered others.
And "holocaust centers" are and were known as 'concentration camps'.

It's more than a pity that this administration is not clear on what Hitler in fact did.

The guy's statements are being misconstrued by Leftists who are desperate for a way to attack Trump.

Clearly he was envisioning scenarios where military weapons were used to attack civilians out in public. As such, the events of the Holocaust tended to not match the scenarios that he was thinking of.

There is certainly folly in his trying to compare the the magnitude of different atrocities, but claims that he either was denying the Holocaust or was ignorant of it are just silly.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 01:09 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Clearly he was envisioning scenarios where military weapons were used to attack civilians out in public. As such, the events of the Holocaust tended to not match the scenarios that he was thinking of.

There is certainly folly in his trying to compare the the magnitude of different atrocities, but claims that he either was denying the Holocaust or was ignorant of it are just silly.
Do you now consider the Holocaust Museum to be "Leftist" as well?
Is naming 'concentration camps' now "holocaust centers" the correct way?
Weren't German Jews Germans?

Btw: in the chemical agent factory in Dyhernfurth an der Oder, codenamed "Hochwerk", at least 12,000 metric tons of this agent were manufactured between 1942 and 1945 - it just couldn't be used to various (known) reasons.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 01:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Clearly he was envisioning scenarios where military weapons were used to attack civilians out in public. As such, the events of the Holocaust tended to not match the scenarios that he was thinking of.

There is certainly folly in his trying to compare the the magnitude of different atrocities, but claims that he either was denying the Holocaust or was ignorant of it are just silly.

Do you now consider the Holocaust Museum to be "Leftist" as well?

Possibly. At a minimum they certainly shared in the Leftist silliness.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
Is naming 'concentration camps' now "holocaust centers" the correct way?

That's what he gets for trying to explain himself to his accusers instead of spraying them with a Super Soaker filled with rancid dog urine.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
Weren't German Jews Germans?

Were German Jews chased around and attacked with military weapons in the middle of cities?


Walter Hinteler wrote:
Btw: in the chemical agent factory in Dyhernfurth an der Oder, codenamed "Hochwerk", at least 12,000 metric tons of this agent were manufactured between 1942 and 1945 - it just couldn't be used to various (known) reasons.

Are we talking about a weapon of war here? Which agent are you referring to? Mustard gas? Sarin?
layman
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 02:04 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
In a statement to Fox News, Page said he was "excited the truth is coming out."

'I have done nothing wrong. I have no concerns," Page added. "I was an obvious target because no one has been more thoughtful and methodical in their criticism of the Clinton/Obama administration foreign policy."

Page, who was working as an energy consultant at the time, acknowledged that he "shared basic immaterial information and publicly available research documents" with the operative, Victor Podobnyy. He described the information as "nothing more than a few samples from the far more detailed lectures" he delivered at New York University in 2013.

In an interview with Fox News last month, Page said he had been victimized by a "false narrative" surrounding his contacts with Russian officials.

"I did nothing that could even possibly be viewed as helping them in any way," Page said at the time.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/11/carter-page-fbi-reportedly-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-ex-trump-adviser.html

Quote:
According to court documents filed earlier this month in connection with a separate espionage case, the Russian tried to recruit Page as an intelligence source.


Filed "earlier this month," eh? In a "separate espionage case," they tried to recruit him.eh?

The FBI is stonewalling congress, refusing to provide requested information and to answer relevant questions. They are NOT going to come out of this looking good. The political motivation is obvious.
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