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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
hightor
 
  2  
Sat 1 Apr, 2017 05:34 am
@gungasnake,
I knew it! Now let the deportations commence!
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blatham
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 05:54 am
From Michael Gerson
Quote:
Heading into last year’s election, Republicans knew that this problem — the tea party predicament, the Freedom Caucus conundrum, the Boehner bog — had to be dealt with. The GOP needed a large and capable leader who could either unite the whole party (at least temporarily) with a bold, unifying conservative vision, or peel off some centrist Democratic support with innovative policy. They needed an above-average president.

What they got is unimaginably distant from any of these goals. They got a leader who is empty — devoid of even moderately detailed preferences and incapable of using policy details in the course of political persuasion.

...Republicans got a leader who is impatient and easily distracted — by cable news on the Russian scandal or by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s TV ratings. The content and consequences of his tweets are bad enough; worse is the disordered personality traits they reveal — vindictiveness, shallowness and lack of discipline.

...Republicans got an administration that is incompetent. The White House policy process has been erratic and disorganized.

...Republicans got an administration that is morally small.

...This is a pretty bad combination: empty, easily distracted, vindictive, shallow, impatient, incompetent and morally small. This is not the profile of a governing party.
WP
What is so depressing here is that Gerson along with only a very few other conservatives have the integrity and courage to speak so honestly. The GOP and the conservative movement are now so deeply and pervasively corrupted, both financially and ethically, that the party may never again in any foreseeable future, be other than a massively destructive entity in US politics.
oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:02 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
http://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17362718_1831026147222599_662005306484813366_n.jpg?oh=28336ac124a8d9eb279561f9a9127071&oe=59681362

Nothing to add. It's perfect as it is.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:03 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:
And this is why they are dangerous to EU. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain down the road. IF EU falls apart NATO bulshit won't keep them at bay forever. They might as well make a preemptive nuke strike in Germany and France with the promise they won't attack the US. A self-centred economically weakened America might very well take the deal. It might seem a sci-fi movie now but give it some time. The more fracked up the overpopulated planet becomes the more likely this scenario will be. EU cannot afford to time travel while the world gets more shity every day.

Russia won't launch a preemptive nuclear strike at France. France would retaliate in kind.

But Trump and Putin might come to an arrangement where both sides prefer to have the EU divided up into smaller individual powers that can be played against each other.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:04 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
At this rate, at breathtaking speed. I'm old enough to remember Watergate. The Watergate scandals would have a spurt of news stories about a court decision, then lie fallow for several months, then another spate of news stories about another development, then it would go away again, and so on for nearly two years.

Trumpgate is like Watergate on meth. Every day it's another revelation, then another, then another. Trump is so corrupt, and the people in his campaign so intertwined with Russian treachery, that the hard part is keeping up with the revelations. Pretty soon even the Republicans are going to realize that Trump is a criminal with little to no loyalty to the United States at all.

With respect, I think you are spending too much time in a Leftist echo chamber that is disconnected with reality.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:05 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Flynn may be many things, but he's certainly no G. Gordon Liddy. Liddy had a pair of balls.

Liddy's a good man. I've always said (and I meant it) that if I were inclined to listen to right-wing talk radio, Liddy would be my first choice.

Of course, I'm not inclined to listen to right-wing talk radio. But if I were.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:10 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Is Trump thinking about quitting?

No. He is thinking of joining the ranks of Lincoln and FDR as one of America's most successful presidents.


some goofy blogger somewhere wrote:
Now that Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser is offering to testify in Trump’s Russia scandal in exchange for immunity, it significantly narrows the path for Trump managing to survive the scandal himself. Flynn is essentially admitting he’s guilty just by asking for immunity, and such a deal will only be granted if Flynn can take down a bigger fish; that fish would be Trump. So it doesn’t come as a total shock to see a credible report tonight that Donald Trump is considering resigning.

Go ahead, give the guy the click. He mentioned 'big fish' and baited the hook for you.

Here's the excerpt from Jared Kushner's shop, which occasionally forgets to run some kinda big deal past its publisher.

Donald Trump is reportedly considering resigning the presidency after reports that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has offered to testify about allegations that the Trump campaign worked with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Good grief. Rolling Eyes
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:18 am
@blatham,
Trump does not inspire loyalty, he never takes responsibility for his cock ups and is prepared to throw anyone under the bus in order to achieve this. They're going to be queuing up to stab each other in the back.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:19 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I think Trump already arrived at his political death pool.
He lost on his two major orders; 1) repeal ACA, and 2) ban all Muslims.

Trump is doing fine, and will be one of our most successful presidents.

Trump didn't try to ban all Muslims.

And he hasn't lost. The Supreme Court will let the order go forward.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:20 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
We can strt a trump "political death pool"

Someone already started that thread. I'm already down for Trump serving for eight years and the Republicans holding the White House for twenty years.

One second. I'll find the link.

Here it is. You've already posted in it:
https://able2know.org/topic/363058-1
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:21 am
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:
I don't think they should make that deal. Team Trump's demise is just a formality at this point, even without this jailhouse snitch.

I know liberals are delusional, but wow!
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:23 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hell is too good for this creep and con. A firestorm at Trump Tower would be justice.

Liberals are filled with hate.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:24 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Scalia probably died of a terminal case of cognitive dissonance. Hard to believe any healthy person could have such a severe disconnect between fantasy and reality without it's having physiological manifestations.

Don't be silly. You can't point to a single fact that Scalia was wrong about.
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hightor
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:38 am
Quote:
Trump sees moral equivalency between the United States and a Russian regime that murders dissenting politicians in broad daylight, brutalizes its opponents, hacks into the American election, and traffics in the whopping lie. He is so beholden to, or seduced by, Vladimir Putin’s Russia that he will not murmur criticism. Enough said. This is a moral abdication of such proportions that America’s alliances are left without ideological foundation. They must then wither.

At night in the ghostly White House, when Ivanka and Jared have gone home, and Trump’s consiglieri have retired to their Russian salads, the gold-robed president — crazed as Lear on the cliffs “fantastically dressed with wildflowers” — wanders from room to room staring at TV screens, cursing in frustration when he cannot find the remote, hurling abuse at the “enemies of the people” who fail to genuflect daily before his genius, adjusting his hair, making random calls to aides to ensure they have scheduled his next play dates with truckers and coal miners.

It might almost be funny. Almost. But the day will come when the Dow plunges and what the former British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan is said to have feared most in politics — “events, dear boy, events” — occurs, perhaps in ghastly terrorist form, and an incoherent administration will be confronted by its first crisis. All that can be said for now is that, in such a moment, illiberalism and xenophobia in the hands of a would-be autocrat will make for a dangerous brew.

NYT
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 1 Apr, 2017 07:03 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
For once, the FBI is just doing its job... I guess they woke up to the fact that they created a monster.
When you guys hang Trump for treason, will you move to Russia?

Has it occurred to anyone here that the FBI report could clear Trump of all wrongdoing?
hightor
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 07:40 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Has it occurred to anyone here that the FBI report could clear Trump of all wrongdoing?

Sure. That's the point of having an investigation. The FBI cleared Hillary, right?
oralloy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 07:51 am
@hightor,
You mean the thing about her private email server? As I recall it cleared her of criminal wrongdoing, but blasted her for her reckless behavior.

I am confident that the FBI's investigation of Trump will be just and fair. I expect that the investigation will find something on the order of Manafort not registering as a foreign agent as he was required to. But I also expect that the investigators will find no wrongdoing on the part of Trump himself.

I think the Left's current hysteria about "Trump's imminent doom" is really pretty goofy.
jcboy
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 08:21 am
Sean Spicer sounds like an idiot when he accuses Hillary of personally selling uranium to Russia. Shadowy figures in trench coats hanging out in allies and underground garages. She's likely responsible for all those dead Ruskies, too. Cool
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hightor
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 08:22 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
But I also expect that the investigators will find no wrongdoing on the part of Trump himself.

That's certainly a possibility but, as with the Right's obsession over Hillary Clinton, don't be surprised if the conclusions are rejected out of hand by his most zealous critics.
Quote:
I think the Left's current hysteria about "Trump's imminent doom" is really pretty goofy.

The Right's doing a pretty good job of looking goofy as well, grasping at any straw to personally implicate Obama in surveillance activity, continuing to spin "fake news" stories, and celebrating the political culture of Russia.



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thack45
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 08:29 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Typical cheese-eater tactic in the face of indisputable facts: attack the source and pretend THAT changes the facts.

These are exactly the tactics of our esteemed grumpgeezer-in-chief. Maybe pop on to his twit account sometime
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