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cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:19 pm
@gungasnake,
I've lived in this country for over 80 years, and all the doomsday scenario never panned out.
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:22 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
@Lash,
That's bullshit. Clinton didn't "hire" anyone to lie about Sanders.


People involved in Sanders campaign claim that team Hillary and the DNC went so far as the **** with their computers to the extent of planting child porn on those computers; most people would assume they would have tried simply lying about Sanders first...

Around 12:18 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLf3Wtcw60o&t=830s

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Fil Albuquerque
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:23 pm
@gungasnake,
...useful half truths are the most dangerous kind. The comment has partial merit and that's why it is bulshit. I am interested in the insignificant other half that actually shows a bunch of corrupts tried to frack up US elections.
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hightor
 
  5  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:32 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Russia's literature and music exceed ours in something like the measure by which our economy exceeds theirs. Some might view that as a reason for wanting to have decent relations with them.

Yeah, if we were still living in the 19th Century and early 20th Century.

I heard Daniel Ellsberg remarking that he supported Trump's desire to have better relations with Russia. A lot of people would prefer peace and cooperation between the two countries. But the USA doesn't want to be in the position of just acceding to Russian empire-building. And Trump is not the ideal person to shepherd this change of policy. Let's wait a bit and see what his real game is. His tax returns should give us an idea just how financially involved he is, what he owes, how much he's been paid, whether there might be some sort of quid pro quo planned etc.
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cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:40 pm
@hightor,
He's not going to release his tax returns. He has too much to hide.
gungasnake
 
  -2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:41 pm
Sanders won the dem nomination, bigly in fact, and the DNC told him to go **** himself and get lost. Even without that you'd need to be a mental defective to ever vote for HDK for president.....
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:41 pm
Is Trump thinking about quitting?
Maybe I should have taken that bet. Two sources I consider to be of dubious stature -- Palmer Report and Inquisitir -- are reporting exactly that as of last night, in ongoing fallout from Michael Flynn's implosion, his latest act of desperation being an offer to testify under immunity from prosecution. First, from the Hillbot blog that almost never links to anything except Twitter.



Now that Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser is offering to testify in Trump’s Russia scandal in exchange for immunity, it significantly narrows the path for Trump managing to survive the scandal himself. Flynn is essentially admitting he’s guilty just by asking for immunity, and such a deal will only be granted if Flynn can take down a bigger fish; that fish would be Trump. So it doesn’t come as a total shock to see a credible report tonight that Donald Trump is considering resigning.

Go ahead, give the guy the click. He mentioned 'big fish' and baited the hook for you.

Here's the excerpt from Jared Kushner's shop, which occasionally forgets to run some kinda big deal past its publisher.

Donald Trump is reportedly considering resigning the presidency after reports that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has offered to testify about allegations that the Trump campaign worked with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign.

To review:

There have been reports circulating for months that Trump was working closely with Russian intelligence officials, and the allegations were laid out in a dossier compiled by a former British MI6 agent. The report claimed that Russian officials had worked for many years to cultivate Donald Trump as a candidate, compiling embarrassing information to use as blackmail while also offering lucrative financial deals for Trump. The dossier alleged that Trump struck a deal to lessen sanctions on Russia in exchange for help taking down Hillary Clinton.

That help allegedly came in the form of emails from Clinton’s campaign leader and the Democratic National Committee, stolen by Russian hackers and published through WikiLeaks.

Flynn had already been taking down for his connections to Russia. The national security adviser served just three weeks before resigning for reportedly lying to Vice President Mike Pence about contact with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak.

Yesterday's Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, with Clinton Watts as the spotlight dancer, set ablaze the New Cold War paranoia again. Let's read Newscorpse for the scary details.

Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, appeared before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday. The former FBI agent was called to give testimony about the unfolding allegations of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump. His testimony addressed many of the most troubling aspects of Trump’s unsavory connections to Russia during the 2016 election.

After his testimony, Watts was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN. He affirmed much of what he told the committee and described the objectives of the Russian operatives. Watts was straight forward with this assessment of the situation:

Blitzer: What was Putin’s objective in all of this?

Watts: The ultimate objective is to destroy democracies from the inside out. What he wants to do is erode trust and sow divisions in the U.S. electorate.

Watts went on to say that intelligence operatives saw hacks and leaks that were “synchronized” with the Trump campaign. “That tends to lead to the belief that there was coordination,” he said. He also spoke about the “trail of dead Russians” that could lead to the confirmation of allegations raised by the infamous “Trump dossier.”

This is about as close as any witness has come to asserting a direct relationship between Trump’s campaign and the Russians. The CIA has already confirmed that Russian operatives were working to help Trump get elected and to hurt Hillary Clinton. The risks facing Watts for his testimony were on his mind during the Senate hearings. He told Blitzer that:

“If I speak today, my bank account could be compromised, I could be discredited through compromising materials, some true some false, but I think the biggest concern is I’m not confident right now that the U.S. government would actually come to bat for me. I’ve seen President Trump call for Russia to leak emails against a political opponent, I’ve seen him discredit the U.S. intelligence community to cite conspiracies that he’s seen on his Twitter feed.

“So, if I say things that the Trump administration doesn’t like or that is counter to Putin, I’m not sure it’s not Trump first, Russia second and the rest of America third.”

That description of Trump’s loyalties should send chills down the spine of every American. Watts’ career has put him in dangerous positions around the world. He is no shrinking violet. But his doubts amount to an indictment of Trump’s patriotism. Watts added that the Trump White House could not be relied on for anything but its own self-interests. “They will push falsehoods to achieve political objectives,” he said, “before they will push the truth for the American people.”

That has been borne out many times as Trump and his spokespersons disseminate “alternative facts” and cast false accusations at critics and the press. It is part of a grand strategy to discredit anyone who dares to find fault with the president. But as the Russian scandals compound, Trump is finding it increasingly more difficult to defend himself and his cohorts.

This Daily Kos diarist also passes along a Tweet from someone named West Wing Reports that former RNC chief Michael Steele is telling him/her "at lunch that Trump will not finish his term; advises clients to bolster ties w/VP Pence".

Let's establish that Trump is precisely the sort of petty, hyper-aggressive bully that would take his ball and go home if everybody won't stop being mean to him. But I am only able to give veracity to these accounts after the fact; if indeed Trump quits the presidency sooner than later. Until that comes into reality, I'm popping corn and watching and reading along with you.
Posted by PDiddie at Friday, March 31, 2017
http://brainsandeggs.blogspot.com/2017/03/is-trump-thinking-about-quitting.html?spref=fb
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
DT paid something like 20 times what you'd ever be worth in taxes last year....
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
Flynn may be many things, but he's certainly no G. Gordon Liddy. Liddy had a pair of balls.
thack45
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:50 pm
@gungasnake,
Now that is impressive
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ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
Thanks to P.Diddie, and yourself, EB.

As an aside, have you seen or talked with P. Diddie lately? That man used to have a great tee shirt collection.. Some of us met him in San Francisco and in Albuquerque.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 12:59 pm
@ossobucotemp,
Also met him in Houston.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 01:00 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Sanders won the dem nomination...

How do you figure that? He did well, especially in open primary states, but I don't see where you get off saying he "won". Bigly.
Quote:
Even without that you'd need to be a mental defective to ever vote for HDK for president.....

On the contrary, I think you'd have to have a very active and discerning mind to rationalize voting for such a sub-optimal candidate.
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 01:06 pm
Quote:


Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 31, 2017


Can't someone in his coterie of sycophants come up with a new phrase? "Witch hunt" is really overdone. "Fishing expedition", "star chamber" or "kangaroo court" might work for a while but I'd really like to see something new and original.
How about "virtual waterboarding"?
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 01:17 pm
@ossobucotemp,
ossobucotemp wrote:

Thanks to P.Diddie, and yourself, EB.

As an aside, have you seen or talked with P. Diddie lately? That man used to have a great tee shirt collection.. Some of us met him in San Francisco and in Albuquerque.


I have only met the Did once. But we exchange messages from time to
time. It was the same day I met CI.
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 01:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
I didn't mean to leave out his wife - I liked her too, but I've got the tee shirts on the brain.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 01:37 pm
@ossobucotemp,
It has been really interesting to visit with them Santa Fe (and it was nice in Albuquerque, too - osso didn't like the meal at the winery's restaurant, if I remember correctly ...)
izzythepush
 
  3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 02:23 pm
gungasnake wrote:

DT paid something like 20 times what you'd ever be worth in taxes last year....


Gungasnake exemplifies the lickspittle mentality, all a person is judged on is their wealth, he would have hated Jesus.
farmerman
 
  4  
Fri 31 Mar, 2017 02:32 pm
@izzythepush,
Lots of Herr Tweet money is reserve cash from NOT PAYING his many creditors. He owed one of the company;s that I workd for in 1986 . This company was replacing the entire water supply for ATlantic City. His amount was about 500K. H refued to pay , saying the work was "Substandard"> Wverybody knew he was a lying asshole back then, His pathological lying ws a ploy to try to grind people down so they would jut go away and "write it off"> Hi business model uses that continually. He outsmarted himwel though, the compny refused to ign any of the permits and never turned over any occupancy papers .
Finally ome "Investors from Philly" came nd paid Trumps share. e really nver knew who these investors were.

I really wish there was a Hell so I could know that he would rot in it.
 

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