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blatham
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 04:38 pm
More exceptionalism! Huzzah huzzah.

Another mass shooting today, in Florida Nothing says liberty like lots and lots of dead and maimed citizens with big gaping bullet wounds
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 04:41 pm
@snood,
I think its directly following
(a) when he builds the Mexico-paid-for wall,
FACT: which Mexico said they will not pay for. What will Trump do now? Start a war with Mexico?
(b) repeals and replaces Obamacare,
FACT: his own party already refused to bring it up for a vote.
(c) and initiates a 7-country Muslim ban,
FACT: a judge already reversed his executive order.
I think. Right after that, America becomes great.
FACT: America was great before Trump, and it will be greater after Trump.
His successor won't insult our allies like Trump has.
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snood
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 04:43 pm
@blatham,
Thanks, Blatham - that was very instructive. Damn. My takeaway is that it might be extremely hard to get them, even if they can be compelled to give testimony that incriminates themselves.
blatham
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 05:07 pm
@snood,
Yes. This is a very corrupt crowd. Toss in Session as AG and it gets far worse. What we have to place our hope in is whistle blowers, the FBI and Intel communities (though I expect both have elements compromised) and hard-working reporters (and they ARE digging in on this) to bring thing to a head, and then citizen activism to really push hard. The Watergate scandal took a long time to develop and then to finally reach a critical point.
snood
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 06:35 pm
@blatham,
Agree. It is desperately important that this Russian connection be ferreted out until it's fully discovered and made public.
blatham
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 06:54 pm
@snood,
Desperately important, yes.

1) The number of threads linking Trump and people around him to oligarchs and criminals in Russia grows almost daily

2) That Russia set out purposefully to influence the election results and concentrated their efforts on bringing Clinton down and getting Trump into office is now a known known, as the FBI and Intel people have told us.

3) That Russia is acting to destabilize the US and western European democracies is a known known, again from the FBI and Intel people.

4) That the GOP is acting via Nunes and other committee members and the D of J to insulate Trump through distraction and obstruction is clear and obvious.

5) That the potential threats to US democracy from all the above is so significant and so dire, that the present GOP/administration behavior just cannot be permitted to continue. This is all SO much more dangerous than either Benghazi or emails and if the GOP is allowed to proceed as they have been, the jeopardy to the US becomes almost impossible to exaggerate.
layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 06:56 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Agree. It is desperately important that this Russian connection be ferreted out until it's fully discovered and made public.

Blatham wrote:
Desperately important, yes.


Heh. "DESPERATELY" important, eh? Who gives a **** if Trump talked to Putin every day during the whole campaign? There's no law against that.

Well, I'll give you this much. Y'all are sho nuff desperate as hell. It's sorry, really.

They've been investigating for many months, and have no evidence of any wrong-doing (and that includes Flynn's contacts with russians). The FBI, the CIA, and all the other intelligence agencies (all Obama loyalists who are trying to get Trump impeached) have turned up nothing. But maybe some cheese-eating lefty can, somehow, eh?

Best get to it, Bud.
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layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:08 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

5) That the potential threats to US democracy from all the above is so significant and so dire...the jeopardy to the US becomes almost impossible to exaggerate.


"IMPOSSIBLE TO EXAGGERATE(!!!!)," eh?

Hahahahahaha.

Guess what? You just did the "impossible," eh?

Are you Chicken Little, or did you just get schooled by him?
layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:29 pm
@layman,
I've never watched any soap operas. But apparently some people find the concocted "drama" they are said to contain to be rather addictive.

I never understood the fascination, but I think I'm beginning to. I find it amusing and entertaining to observe the cheese-eating drama queens in this thread--to the point where I really don't want to miss seeing the next episode, ya know?
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layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:36 pm
There was a murder (by poison) of a peasant in a rural village in some obscure province of China last week.

If Trump did it, he should be IMPEACHED, I tellya!

His involvement in this dastardly crime MUST be investigated--for decades, if necessary.
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blatham
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:38 pm
Quote:
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
We are taking action to #RepealANDReplace #Obamacare! Contact your Rep & tell them you support #AHCA. #PassTheBill http://45.wh.gov/Rame8F
9:07 AM - 23 Mar 2017

Quote:
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
After seven horrible years of ObamaCare (skyrocketing premiums & deductibles, bad healthcare), this is finally your chance for a great plan!
5:14 AM - 24 Mar 2017

Quote:
In his daily press briefing on Monday, White House spokesperson Sean Spicer suggested that President Trump canceled a vote on the Republican plan to replace Obamacare because it was a “bad deal” that was “not going to be keeping with the vision that he had.”

But Trump was trying to get House Republicans to vote for the bill until the very last minute, even though it never lived up to his promises on the campaign trail to cover everyone and do it cheaply.

Vox

There is clearly no limit to how much or how often these people will just lie through their teeth.
Builder
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:45 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
1) The number of threads linking Trump and people around him to oligarchs and criminals in Russia grows almost daily


American oligarchs, the Koch brothers have direct links to Nazis, and the Bush family, likewise, but let's not let the truth get in the way of good story, hey?
layman
 
  -1  
Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:47 pm
Trump visited Paris in 2009. On the very day his flight out left, an elderly woman was injured by a hit and run driver, less than 20 miles away from the airport. If Trump did this, he should be IMPEACHED! We MUST investigate! Now!
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snood
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:48 pm
@blatham,
How do you fathom people who continue to support and defend Trump and his "administration"? I can't see how anyone with any shred of decency could keep propping this excrement up.
layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:02 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

I can't see how anyone with any shred of decency could keep propping this excrement up.


"Excrement?" The word is "****," OK?

Quote:
“Do not accustom yourself to use big words for little matters.” (Samuel Johnson)
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snood
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:11 pm
The wise make proverbs, and fools repeat them.

-Isaac D'Israeli
layman
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:18 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

The wise make proverbs, and fools repeat them.

-Isaac D'Israeli
That guy really aint all that bright, is he?

Paying attention to the words of the wise is not exactly a fool's errand, know what I'm sayin?
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ossobucotemp
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:21 pm
@snood,
I am interested.
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RABEL222
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:29 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
American oligarchs, the Koch brothers have direct links to Nazis, and the Bush family, likewise, but let's not let the truth get in the way of good story, hey?


How long have you been on this site. This fact has been pointed out numerous time on other threads. Maybe you need to read more or take a memory course.
RABEL222
 
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Mon 27 Mar, 2017 08:31 pm
@RABEL222,
Just saw where a company gave a estimate of 1 billion doaalrs for 62 miles of fence. That comes to 35.5 billion dollars for the border fence.
 

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