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oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 09:33 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Merrick Garland had a respectable level of Republican support when he was confirmed in 1997. What changed?

At the end of the Bush Administration the Democrats started blocking all of his nominations just to be mean spirited.

The Republicans were merely retaliating.

If the Democrats don't want to lose a fight, they shouldn't start it.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 09:33 pm
@edgarblythe,
I'm sure many will voice their preference on the penalty.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 09:40 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Where is the crime "lessened"? It was simply compared to other known examples of sickening behavior.

Comparing atrocities in this manner is a minimization of one of the atrocities.

And since people who object to that minimization will inevitably fight that comparison, it often provokes the unintentional minimization of the other atrocity.

I ran into the same problem with the Amanda Knox case, where people tried to excuse the Italian judicial system by pointing to all the cases where American courts have intentionally convicted innocent people.

The natural response was to promote the Italian judges' atrocities as being worse than the American cases, but in that case I'd be minimizing the atrocities committed in America and I just couldn't do that.

I instead responded by pointing out what horrible people they were for trying to use one atrocity to justify another.

Perhaps Blatham's minimization of atrocities here will help people to see what a horrible person he is.


hightor wrote:
Well at least he didn't shrug it off...
Quote:

Ah...Boys will be boys...

I don't think giujohn was shrugging off rape when he said that. He was responding to a comment about Navy SEALs and blow jobs.

Also, if it's OK for the feminists to use "boys will be boys" to excuse Bill Clinton, why can't it excuse the same in other people? I reject the premise that the Democrats get to have different rules from the rest of society.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 09:42 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
I'm not going to let you off that easily. You deceitfully and purposefully mis-stated what I'd said/argued and produced a really ugly personal smear.

You mean like you did to me when you needed to distract from your inability to think for yourself?


blatham wrote:
what you did drops below any acceptable level of discourse.

If you concentrate that much hypocrisy on the surface of the planet, you're liable to cause an earthquake.

(Not to mention the fact that McGentrix was only criticizing you for something that you actually said.)
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glitterbag
 
  6  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 09:56 pm
@gungasnake,
Jesus H. Christ, don't you recognize a coked up nutcase when you see one? I hope she doesn't have access to car keys, she needs to sober up. Oh and that voice and delivery, She makes Sarah Palin appear like a graduate of Swarthmore. Loovelllly.
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glitterbag
 
  5  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 10:09 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


What lost the war in Vietnam was that after our military had successfully eradicated the Vietcong and South Vietnam was on a course for independence from Communist domination, the American Democratic Party sold out South Vietnam by cutting off all their aid and supplies.


Try not to embarrass yourself, please.
giujohn
 
  -3  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 11:07 pm
2 points...The UK is reaping what they've sown,

and who is the DOLT who posted the picture of the National Enquirer...I guess I'm going to have to get me a subscription.

Who laughing now Snowflakes?

And I predict, it's just the tip of the iceberg
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 11:07 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
oralloy wrote:
What lost the war in Vietnam was that after our military had successfully eradicated the Vietcong and South Vietnam was on a course for independence from Communist domination, the American Democratic Party sold out South Vietnam by cutting off all their aid and supplies.

Try not to embarrass yourself, please.

I'm not embarrassed by the American Left's sell out of South Vietnam. I had nothing to do with it.
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wmwcjr
 
  -3  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 11:28 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
What lost the war in Vietnam was that after our military had successfully eradicated the Vietcong and South Vietnam was on a course for independence from Communist domination, the American Democratic Party sold out South Vietnam by cutting off all their aid and supplies.


I'm afraid oralloy is right about this. In other words, I wish this hadn't happened; but it did.
wmwcjr
 
  -2  
Wed 22 Mar, 2017 11:30 pm
@giujohn,
What are you talking about?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 12:45 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
What are you talking about?
It's his unusual kind of paying tributes to the victims and the brave, and showing his solidarity after the Westminster attack.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 01:51 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Human beings do show solidarity, some creatures take ghoulish pleasure in events such as this. Imagine the outcry if one of us had said something similar after 9/11.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 04:30 am
When a cliche becomes a tad awkward
Quote:
Kristi Yamaguchi told Nancy Kerrigan to ‘break a leg’ on ‘Dancing With the Stars’
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 04:47 am
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/22/bill-oreilly-medias-treatment-maryland-high-school-rape-beyond-anything-have-ever-seen.html
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 05:09 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

oralloy wrote:
What lost the war in Vietnam was that after our military had successfully eradicated the Vietcong and South Vietnam was on a course for independence from Communist domination, the American Democratic Party sold out South Vietnam by cutting off all their aid and supplies.


I'm afraid oralloy is right about this. In other words, I wish this hadn't happened; but it did.

We should not have committed murder on the countries involved in the first place.
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 05:46 am
Quote:
What lost the war in Vietnam was...

I think the world might be a better place when our generation is dead.
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 05:49 am
Why they call it Californicatia....

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/12/19/la-officials-unveil-10-million-legal-defense-fund-for-immigrants-facing-deportation/

Bridges, dams, vital infrastructure crumbling, bordering on insolvent, sky high taxes, gasoline 3x what it is everywhere else, vehicle registration 5x, contractors getting paid with IOU's, tax returns delayed, etc., etc., and what are they doing with your tax dollars, Californians who live in L.A.?
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 05:57 am
More jolly japes from Trump's pal Putin.

Quote:
A former Russian MP who fled to Ukraine last year has been shot dead outside a hotel in Kiev.

Denis Voronenkov and his bodyguard were attacked as they left the Premier Palace hotel in the centre of the city, reports said.

The bodyguard fired back at the attacker and both were wounded, according to local media.

Mr Voronenkov was a controversial figure, who left Russia amid accusations of fraud.

Kiev police chief Andriy Kryshchenko told 112 Ukrayina TV that the attack was most likely a contract killing. Witnesses said they heard seven shots fired outside the hotel.

Denis Voronenkov was elected as a Communist MP in 2011, married an MP from another party and backed a law limiting foreign ownership in Russian media.

But he left for Kiev late last year. Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny had questioned how he had managed to build his fortune on his salary.

In recent months Mr Voronenkov had given evidence to Kiev prosecutors in a high treason case against deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and condemned Russia's annexation of Crimea as illegal.

Russian opposition activist Ilya Ponomarev said Mr Voronenkov was on his way to meet him and insisted he was not a criminal.

"I'm speechless. Voronenkov was no crook but an investigator who was deadly dangerous for the Russian siloviki (security services)," he said.

The deputy head of Ukrainian police, Oleksandr Vakulenko, also suggested Russian involvement because the ex-MP had "important information".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39364542
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 06:07 am
Quote:
The GOP’s Deal With the Devil Is Unraveling
At this point, Republicans will be lucky if they get their end of the bargain with Donald Trump.

...If Trumpcare dies (in the House Thursday night, or in the Senate next week), congressional Republicans will have to reckon with the possibility that their bargain with Trump is unraveling, and that they’re getting stiffed. Some of the difficulties Republicans are encountering in the health care process will surely spill over into their ultimate goal of cutting taxes. “Without this bill, I don’t know how you do tax reform,” one Republican congressman told the New York Times.

Meanwhile, Trump’s cover is in danger of wearing thin. The Republican appetite for his antics will weaken if their agenda falters. Which key Republicans would be willing to debase themselves as faithfully as Nunes did if Obamacare repeal is a dead letter? If the FBI’s investigation of Trump’s campaign continues to dominate headlines, who will volunteer to be Trump’s human shield until the tax cut process really gets moving?

Without loyalists in Congress, Trump’s presidency would crumble, but he would have pocketed at least some spoils, at great cost to his party and the nation. The classic devil’s bargain is an exchange of soul for real but fleeting fortunes. At this point, Republicans will be lucky if it turns out their deal was with a devil who can make good on his end, rather than an impostor who cannot.
New Republic
Mind you, I'm sure this will work out because Trump is the best negotiator in world history. Am I right or am I right?
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blatham
 
  0  
Thu 23 Mar, 2017 06:09 am
@izzythepush,
Fun crowd over there in Putinlandia. But as the Trump family and circle understand, being realists, goddamn there is money to be made!
 

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