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@wmwcjr,

wmwcjr wrote:

What are you talking about?

Which part don't ya get?

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

We should not have committed murder on the countries involved in the first place.

Lawful acts of war are not murder.

Free democracies have every right to defend themselves from Communist domination.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/22/bill-oreilly-medias-treatment-maryland-high-school-rape-beyond-anything-have-ever-seen.html

Anything that may, in any way possible, show that the Trump administration was correct about anything will not be covered with any intensity. The media bias, and the bias of those who study the media, is sickening to me. It is absolutely disgusting how obvious they have become in their coverage and response to pretty much anything.

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@gungasnake,

Looks to me like O'Really? is as guilty of playing politics with this incident as the media he's castigating. There are around 89,000 reported rapes a year in the USA. So these two crimes should be plastered all over the front pages because the assailants are immigrants? So the crime is worse because the perpetrators are foreign? Is he suggesting that every sexual assault should receive maximum media attention? Or just those committed by immigrants? Seems to me he wants to use the crimes to fire up general anti-immigrant sentiment and stoke the flames of intolerance, suspicion, and hatred 'beyond anything I have ever seen'.

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No one can get a proper night's sleep because of the shoe-boarding torture technique

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Steven Dennis ✔ @StevenTDennis
McCain says the Manafort/Russia money story didn't surprise him.
"There are other shoes that will drop. This is a centipede."
6:49 PM - 22 Mar 2017

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@oralloy,

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Free democracies have every right to defend themselves from Communist domination.

I didn't realize the USA was threatened with domination by either the VC or the NVA.

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Maddow has been doing some truly excellent coverage lately. In one segment you'll find at the link, she interviews AP reporter Jeff Horowitz whose team has uncovered multi-million dollar payments to Manfort by Putin to help him influence the US, payments he was legally obliged to reveal and did not.

In another very important segment, she covers what is now known about Russian military intelligence's development of cyber warfare techniques including the use of bots and trolls which were applied before the election (and are still being employed). Of particular interest to me was the avalanche of fake stories about Clinton(s) that were pumped into pro-Sanders social media groups to foster division and hate to demoralize Dem voters re Hillary.

These are both very important stories we need to grasp. This link gets you the Manafort story and scroll down for the segment on Russian info-war tactics

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@hightor,

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I didn't realize the USA was threatened with domination by either the VC or the NVA.

Indeed it was. And the goal was successful which is evidenced any time our wives, girlfriends or daughters go for a manicure or pedicure.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

Looks to me like O'Really? is as guilty of playing politics with this incident as the media he's castigating. There are around 89,000 reported rapes a year in the USA. So these two crimes should be plastered all over the front pages because the assailants are immigrants? So the crime is worse because the perpetrators are foreign? Is he suggesting that every sexual assault should receive maximum media attention? Or just those committed by immigrants? Seems to me he wants to use the crimes to fire up general anti-immigrant sentiment and stoke the flames of intolerance, suspicion, and hatred 'beyond anything I have ever seen'.

I know that my point in this is that this crime was EASILY preventable. Had immigration laws been enforced by the city and school, that illegal immigrant wouldn't have been in a position to rape anyone on American soil.

It has nothing to do with other rapes or rape statistics. This is what Blatham can't seem to fathom. Easily preventable crimes NEED to be shown and discussed. This crime is wholly owned by liberal policies and liberal **** stains that think being a "sanctuary city" will mean anything to the criminals that will infest their towns and cities.

Why is this so hard for you guys to understand? Your liberal agenda will now cause this young girl to live the rest of her life with the trauma inflicted upon her by your shitty values.

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@McGentrix,

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Anything that may, in any way possible, show that the Trump administration was correct about anything will not be covered with any intensity.

What exactly were they "correct about" here — that immigrants commit crimes? Wow, that's really insightful; I never would have suspected such a thing! Instead of sensationalizing tragedy what would be less obviously opportunistic and a lot more helpful would be to break down the incidence of crimes committed by non-citizens according to national origin, level of education, employment, length of time in the USA, etc and compare these statistics to those compiled for citizens. Then we might be able to make a realistic appraisal as to what we're up against and how to address it meaningfully.

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It is absolutely disgusting how obvious they have become in their coverage and response to pretty much anything.

You're talking about FOX News, right?

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"If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me"

That's a famed, but apparently false, quotation usually attributed to a southern Republican politician. The following, however, was actually voiced just recently...

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Seeking and winning the presidency has been a magical voyage of discovery for Donald Trump.

Tuesday night, he divulged a most remarkable finding: Abraham Lincoln was — are you sitting down for this? — a Republican.

“Most people don’t even know he was a Republican,” Trump told a group of Republicans. “Right? Does anyone know? A lot of people don’t know that.”

WP
I think we can safely assume that a certain oddly-coiffed gentleman was surprised to hear this unexpected piece of historical information. Many bonus quotes of the same...umm...curious sort at link.

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Now, this is worth thinking about...

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It is remarkable — and perhaps praiseworthy — that Donald Trump gave a long and detailed interview on the subject of his being a pathological liar. The interview, with Time’s Michael Scherer, covers a wide range of Trump’s lies, and features many of his own justifications for them. The truly revealing moment of the interview comes at the end, when Trump gives up the game. “But isn’t there, it strikes me there is still an issue of credibility,” asks Scherer, referencing Trump’s hallucinatory claims to have been surveilled by his predecessor, which his own intelligence officials have refuted. Trump rambles through various talking points, and lands on this conclusion: “I guess, I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not.”

This small line is an important historical marker of the bizarre and disconcerting reality into which American politics has plunged. Trump is not merely making an attack on truth here. He is attacking the idea of truth. His statement is a frontal challenge to the notion that objective reality can be separated from power.

NYMag
The formulation here is that truthfulness or intellectual integrity, honesty and coherence or any other related concept and value is junior to power and dominance. This is exactly the thought process of the bully and authoritarian.

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@blatham,

Money Trumps human rights every time, (pun intended.)

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Just bumped into a great piece of translation

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Benefits Hammer Of Thor Strong Medicine Penis

Now wondering whether here in Canada I might be able to legally change my name to that.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

oralloy wrote:
Free democracies have every right to defend themselves from Communist domination.

I didn't realize the USA was threatened with domination by either the VC or the NVA.

As far as direct threats go, South Vietnam was threatened with domination by both the VC and NVA.

As far as the USA goes, the Communist plan was to take over the entire world, country by country, until it was just the United States alone against an entire world dominated by Communism, at which point they would defeat us too.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Why is this so hard for you guys to understand? Your liberal agenda will now cause this young girl to live the rest of her life with the trauma inflicted upon her by your shitty values.

Liberals just plain suck. That's why I always advocate dragging the lot of them down to Guantanamo and incarcerating them next to their terrorist buddies.

But thankfully that demented ideology is on its way out. We'll never have to worry about Liberals being in power again. The voters will see to that.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

What exactly were they "correct about" here — that immigrants commit crimes? Wow, that's really insightful; I never would have suspected such a thing!

Do you even news bro? Do you recall when Trump said that Mexico was not sending their best, but were sending murderers and rapists? THIS is what he was talking about. The hew and cry from the left was unbearable but look, Trump is once again proven to be correct. Illegal immigrants come to this country and have no regard for the people or laws that make this country great.

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Instead of sensationalizing tragedy what would be less obviously opportunistic and a lot more helpful would be to break down the incidence of crimes committed by non-citizens according to national origin, level of education, employment, length of time in the USA, etc and compare these statistics to those compiled for citizens. Then we might be able to make a realistic appraisal as to what we're up against and how to address it meaningfully.

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It is absolutely disgusting how obvious they have become in their coverage and response to pretty much anything.

You're talking about FOX News, right?

Who is sensationalizing this story? Blatham brought it up in an attempt to bury it and I called him out on it. None of the things you list here matter to the 14 year old girl that now has to spend the rest of her life traumatized. All because some liberal agenda the lets criminals walk free because they are afraid they might offend someone.

Way to be part of the problem and not the solution.

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@oralloy,

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Liberals just plain suck. That's why I always advocate dragging the lot of them down to Guantanamo and incarcerating them next to their terrorist buddies.

When did the Constitution state that this country is just for people who think like you? I think you should back away from the keyboard .

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

Now, this is worth thinking about...

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It is remarkable — and perhaps praiseworthy — that Donald Trump gave a long and detailed interview on the subject of his being a pathological liar. The interview, with Time’s Michael Scherer, covers a wide range of Trump’s lies, and features many of his own justifications for them. The truly revealing moment of the interview comes at the end, when Trump gives up the game. “But isn’t there, it strikes me there is still an issue of credibility,” asks Scherer, referencing Trump’s hallucinatory claims to have been surveilled by his predecessor, which his own intelligence officials have refuted. Trump rambles through various talking points, and lands on this conclusion: “I guess, I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not.”

This small line is an important historical marker of the bizarre and disconcerting reality into which American politics has plunged. Trump is not merely making an attack on truth here. He is attacking the idea of truth. His statement is a frontal challenge to the notion that objective reality can be separated from power.
NYMag
The formulation here is that truthfulness or intellectual integrity, honesty and coherence or any other related concept and value is junior to power and dominance. This is exactly the thought process of the bully and authoritarian.

"If the president does it that means it is not wrong" - R M Nixon

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@McGentrix,

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Illegal immigrants come to this country and have no regard for the people or laws that make this country great.

That's true of some illegal immigrants — and of some citizens as well. You and the president make it seem as if every illegal alien is a mugger, rapist, or drug dealer. You make a big deal about how this crime could have been prevented if the cities enforced the law and had all illegals deported.

But that means that all the positive contributions that undocumented workers make to the health of our economy would be prevented as well. You can even read anecdotal accounts of illegal immigrants saving lives and helping people — while I don't have documentation I'm willing to bet there's more than one US citizen who owes his life to the help provided by some quick-thinking altruistic human who happened to have entered this country illegally. There's eleven million stories out there.

Do you really believe that no undocumented immigrant ever does anything to contribute to our society, that being here illegally automatically rules an individual out from ever doing anything constructive? Obviously, when an illegal immigrant commits a crime it's news. But unless you can show that these crimes are being committed at a higher rate than those committed by legal citizens at a similar economic level I don't think it's at all helpful to single these crimes out. At all.

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None of the things you list here matter to the 14 year old girl that now has to spend the rest of her life traumatized.

For christ's sake, I didn't think the purpose of this message board was to help crime victims recover from trauma. That sort of response is more effectively dispensed within the girl's family, at her school, and by her community.

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