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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:11 pm
@McGentrix,
Where did you find your studies McG? You do your own, or are you using FOX (faux) News?
Here's FactCheck:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/15/fact-check-both-parties-spin-cbo-report-republican-health-care-bill/99203010/

CBO says, " that 14 million fewer would be insured next year."
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:15 pm
Media Matters has a very good rundown on all the Fox hosts and guests who have been echoing Trump's falsehoods about wire tapping. There are a LOT of these instances. Is anyone surprised? MM
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:17 pm
@blatham,
Wow! Looking back through Caleb's stories he (?) sure has a hard on for successful people. Allomost every story involves one successful person or another. I guess being a lowly reporter must have been rough and just decided to cut his (?) teeth by trying to bring down successful people.

That's a real winner there.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:21 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
That unresolved question — who pays? — helped shape President Barack Obama’s 2010 health care law and its requirement that Americans get health insurance. For years, it even convinced many Republicans, including former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, to champion an insurance mandate. But today, the insurance mandate is the central target of GOP opposition to the law.

Within days, the Supreme Court will rule on whether the new law is constitutional. If the law is upheld, millions of newly insured patients will have many of their hospital bills covered by insurance. But if the law, or just the insurance mandate, is struck down, those bills will be passed on to taxpayers, hospitals and privately insured patients, as they have been for the past quarter-century.
blatham
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:28 pm
Quote:
A few minutes later, answering questions from the committee, Comey calmly delivered yet more damaging news for the White House. Asked if he could confirm Trump’s tweets on March 4th that Barack Obama took steps to “tapp my phones” during the election, Comey said, “I have no information that supports those tweets.” Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, has tried to source his boss’s fiction to a Fox News pundit’s remark that Obama relied on British intelligence agencies to conduct the surveillance. Fox itself has renounced that claim, and British intelligence officials have called the assertion “nonsense” and “utterly ridiculous.” On Monday, Mike Rogers, the head of the National Security Agency, who testified alongside Comey, was asked whether he agrees with the British view, and his answer was “Yes, sir.” (Asked on Monday afternoon whether Trump will apologize for his remark, Sean Spicer said no.)
Nyer
This constant and blatant lying from the Trump White House is doing incredible damage to the US, internally and internationally. This is a much greater threat to the US and to its democracy, I think, than what Nixon did because the disregard of one of the most basic norms of civility and governance - respect for honesty and cognizance of how essential it is - is being undercut every day and Trump's followers (in fact, the large proportion of citizens who attend to rightwing media) are being trained to disregard these norms.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 06:32 pm
@blatham,
I think many of us are hoping he gets impeached before he does more damage. I don't have much hope for it with a republican congress. They prefer ruining our country rather than their party.

A good read: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/03/20/bizarro-america/gslKMcQsx9VlpRGvf3Pb8N/story.html
blatham
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Thanks, ci. Bizarro American, indeed.
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old europe
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:10 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Baldimo wrote:

You guys keep holding on to that like it means something. The election isn't decided by the popular vote, it is decided by the Electoral College, which Trump won.


Which he won by a huge margin.


Some people even say it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.
blatham
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:12 pm
Note this.
Quote:
FBI Director Comey confirms probe of possible coordination between Kremlin and Trump campaign

Comey and Rogers both predicted that Russian intelligence agencies will continue to seek to meddle with U.S. political campaigns, because they view their work in the 2016 presidential race as successful.

“They’ll be back in 2020. They may be back in 2018,’’ Comey said. “One of the lessons they may draw from this is that they were successful, introducing chaos and discord” into the electoral process.

“It’s possible they’re misreading that as ‘it worked,’ so we’ll come back and hit them again in 2020,” Comey added.

Rogers agreed: “I fully expect they will maintain this level of activity.” And, he said, Moscow is conducting a similar “active measures” campaign in Europe, where France and Germany are holding elections this year.
WP
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:17 pm
@blatham,
I doubt the heads of state in Germany and France are anything close to our Trump in the brain department. All anyone has to do is give a compliment to Trump, and they've won his heart and soul.
How much stranger can it be that Trump admires Putin?
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blatham
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:30 pm
Good question here:
Quote:
Amazing Disgrace
How did Donald Trump—a thrice-married, biblically illiterate sexual predator—hijack the religious right?

Back in August 2015, when Donald Trump’s presidential ambitions were widely considered a joke, Russell Moore was worried. A prominent leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, Moore knew that some of the faithful were falling for Trump, a philandering, biblically illiterate candidate from New York City whose lifestyle and views embodied everything the religious right professed to abhor. The month before, a Washington Post poll had found that Trump was already being backed by more white evangelicals than any other Republican candidate.

Moore, a boyish-looking pastor from Mississippi, had positioned himself as the face of the “new” religious right: a bigger-hearted, diversity-oriented version that was squarely opposed to Trump’s “us versus them” rhetoric. Speaking to a gathering of religion reporters in a hotel ballroom in Philadelphia, Moore said that his “first priority” was to combat the “demonizing” and “depersonalizing” of immigrants—people, he pointed out, who were “created in the image of God.” Only by refocusing on such true “gospel” values, Moore believed, could evangelicals appeal to young people who had been fleeing the church in droves, and expand its outreach to African Americans and Latinos. Evangelicals needed to do more than win elections—their larger duty was to win souls. Moore, in short, wanted the Christian right to reclaim the moral high ground—and Trump, in his estimation, was about as low as you could get.
New Republic
Sarah Posner had been covering the religious right for years. This is definitely worth your time.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:52 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Baldimo wrote:

You guys keep holding on to that like it means something. The election isn't decided by the popular vote, it is decided by the Electoral College, which Trump won.


Which he won by a huge margin.


Some people even say it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.


Well, some people probably shouldn't say a lot of the things they say, so there is that...
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:56 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Last Updated Feb 16, 2017 2:25 PM EST

President Trump claimed at a White House event Thursday that his victory last November was “the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.”

That claim is false.
McGentrix
 
  0  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 08:57 pm
@blatham,
Every morning I wake up hoping to see a piece of hard hitting, honest journalism that starts with "How did Donald Trump—a thrice-married, biblically illiterate sexual predator—hijack the religious right?". I mean that is the kind of thing that wins the Pulitzer prize for literature.

So honest, so mature.
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McGentrix
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 09:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://2static2.fjcdn.com/comments/5853914+_7b9fb12ac42423bf8650026d4499f43d.png
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oralloy
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 09:24 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Quote:
Let's continue until every single person who expressed satisfaction over the 9/11 attacks has had all of their children killed.

is something an extremist would say.

It's also something that a justifiably angry person would say.


McGentrix wrote:
Expressing satisfaction for something that's happened to your enemy is no reason to have your entire family wiped out.

Well I'd like to hurt them much much worse than that. But I just can't think of anything that will achieve greater levels of pain.


McGentrix wrote:
North Korea does that kind of **** to keep people obedient.

The difference is North Korea has no justification for harming the people that they harm.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 09:27 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
he has to recognize that this "majority" needs to be made his constituency or he will fail.
farmerman wrote:
Odds arent in his favor.

Actually Trump is going to be one of America's greatest presidents. He will serve for eight full years. And the Republicans will hold the White House for twenty years.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 09:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump can't accept the fact that his inaugural picture didn't show the crowds he claimed.

Well he does have a legitimate grievance that many media outfits show early pictures from when the crowd was thinner.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2017 09:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
But today, the insurance mandate is the central target of GOP opposition to the law.

I don't know why the Democrats are so hyper over this. They never imposed a serious mandate back when they had control.

If the Democrats had been serious about the mandate when they were in charge, many of today's escalating rates would be much lower right now.
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ossobucotemp
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2017 10:35 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ivanka-trump-white-house-236273

geez, loueeze
 

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