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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:00 pm
@layman,
CLUE: No one person represents the whole on any issue. Not any god or any politician.
BTW, your "cheese eater" makes no sense to anyone except to you. Ignorance.
layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The lefties, almost to a man, do indeed view Chomsky as a virtual God, eh? An omniscient creature whose brilliance cannot be disputed and whose instructions must be followed.

They literally worship the bastard.
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Cicerone old pal, you call folks you don't like "idiots" & stuff like that. Layman calls them "cheeses eaters" . Is there any real difference?

Indeed his epithet has some overtones of humor and irony, while yours are a bit more vitriolic.

Lighten up. You're in Hawaii !
layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:19 pm
@georgeob1,
Al means well, I suppose, but aint nobody gunna ever accuse him of bein the sharpest tool in the shed, or nuthin, eh?

Like many a cheese-eater, his main line of "argument" is to call his adversaries "racists."
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thack45
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:26 pm
@layman,
He's from the US
layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 03:32 pm
@thack45,
thack45 wrote:

He's from the US


Who told ya that? He don't claim to be. He's always sayin **** like "You Americans suck," ya know?
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 05:58 pm
Another interview with Steve Bannon. It's clear that he was looking and hoping for a guy like Trump to come along even way back then. He doesn't like the republicans or the democrats. Like Trump, he don't like the whole inbred "swamp" that Washington has become.



Maybe it's just me, but if I want to find out what a person (Bannon or anyone else) thinks, I would rather listen to what THEY say, and their thoughts, rather than what others with various axes to grind want to say ABOUT them, and what they think.
thack45
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 06:44 pm
@layman,
I've been true to my word, and been trying to find info online. Currently about halfway through this https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.kp1OM5beg#.ba9ELeo10
layman
 
  0  
Sun 19 Mar, 2017 07:05 pm
@thack45,
Well, good work, Thack. Here's the video which presents that same transcript in verbal form, which gives a much better sense of Bannon's message, I think. The intonations, cadence, etc., of his presentation are kinda lost it a sterile, typewritten transcript. Also much easier to listen than to read, ya know?

layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 07:13 pm
@layman,
Bannon mentions "judeo-christian" values a lot in that clip. The sneering atheists who revel in mocking religious beliefs will want to immediately dismiss his message. But they are themselves fully imbued with those same values, for the most part. They often mount their high moral horse and condemn others precisely because those others do not comply with the moral dictates of the judeo-christian ethic. They can't seem to discern moral values from religious faith when it comes to such issues, for some reason.
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 07:47 pm
@thack45,
This article does contain the follow-up questions and answers which the video I posted omits, however. For example:

Quote:
Q:...Breitbart is very close to the tea party movement. So I’m just wondering whether you could tell me about if in the current flow of contemporary politics...

A: Look, we believe — strongly — that there is a global tea party movement. We’ve seen that. We were the first group to get in and start reporting on things like UKIP and Front National and other center right. With all the baggage that those groups bring — and trust me, a lot of them bring a lot of baggage, both ethnically and racially — but we think that will all be worked through with time.

The central thing that binds that all together is a center-right populist movement of really the middle class, the working men and women in the world who are just tired of being dictated to by what we call the party of Davos--and I could see this when I worked at Goldman Sachs — there are people in New York that feel closer to people in London and in Berlin than they do to people in Kansas and in Colorado, and they have more of this elite mentality that they’re going to dictate to everybody how the world’s going to be run.

The tea party in the United States’ biggest fight is with the the Republican establishment, which is really a collection of crony capitalists that feel that they have a different set of rules of how they’re going to comport themselves and how they’re going to run things....

Crony capitalism, or what we call state-controlled capitalism, and that’s the big thing the tea party is fighting in the United States, and really the tea party’s biggest fight is not with the left, because we’re not there yet. The biggest fight the tea party has today is just like UKIP. UKIP’s biggest fight is with the Conservative Party.

The tea party in the United States’ biggest fight is with the the Republican establishment, which is really a collection of crony capitalists that feel that they have a different set of rules of how they’re going to comport themselves and how they’re going to run things.




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georgeob1
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:12 pm
@layman,
Thanks. I have long shared the views Bannon articulated about the significance of the disaster of WWI; the political & spiritual void it created in the West; and the nascent evils that resulted, including Marxist Socialism, pervasive secularism and now reborn Islamic fundamentalism. The struggle with Marxist Socialism consumed the remainder of the 20th Century, leaving a now secular Western Civilization, bereft of its former spiritual values, and somewhat paralyzed in the face of the fanaticism sweeping the Muslim world.

We appear to be replacing our former spiritual values which focused on individuals of all colors and types, their moral responsibilities for themselves and those who depend on them in a society in which non government civic and religious organizations played significant roles, with the pursuit of a progressive Nirvana in which supposedly enlightened government programs, and the bureaucracies that manage them, will address all human wants and needs and measure its success in terms of the standing of all the various groups into which it assigns the people it governs. Such an Orwellian anthill would be a very sad regression and end for our Western Civilization.
giujohn
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:34 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Trump talks about Schumer, CNN, Baldwin, O'Reilly, Warren, and others:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtAt7v73JM[/youtube]


He's right...Waters is going g places...He got it.
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giujohn
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:39 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Ya know, I've posted excerpts from printed stories about (with quotations from) Bannon; videos of serious lectures he has delivered, and a link to one of the (many) documentaries that he has written and produced in this thread.

No one has offered a word of comment. I'll bet no cheese-eater paid the least bit of attention to any of it. They don't want to see first-hand what Bannon advocates. They just want to cling to the deluded narrative that they get from the media, and make all judgments based on that biased, dishonest portrait of him as some kind of skinhead.


They can't handle the truth.

America First, Baby!


Well you see it's kind of like Satan and holy water..."It burns!" Looney liberals can't get any where near lucid logical right minded thinkers...It like ******* kyptonite to them.
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glitterbag
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:41 pm
@georgeob1,
I'm always puzzled that people don't understand the reason the Founders insisted on a separation of Church and State. They did not elevate the State over the Church nor the Church over the State. Are you fearful the Church will become the ruling power of the country? Theocracy doesn't usually work, eh, you ol cheese eater you.
giujohn
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:49 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Give that 9/11 conspiracy **** a rest, willya Cammie?:

Quote:
“A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.” (Winston Churchill)


No one listens, ya know?


I heard that NIST is really a covert Government spy agency and that all of their employees carry fully automatic weapons. They have a bunker under the Rockies that goes on for 50 miles! The also have aliens house there. And they can open up the mountain and fly their hypersonic plane right out of it. It goes 9300 mph! They also have hybrid human/aliens working g in there.
layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:50 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
...the pursuit of a progressive Nirvana in which supposedly enlightened government programs, and the bureaucracies that manage them, will address all human wants and needs and measure its success in terms of the standing of all the various groups into which it assigns the people it governs. Such an Orwellian anthill would be a very sad regression and end for our Western Civilization.


Yeah, George, the whole notion is just a semi-watered down version of communism, the way I see it. The State is glorified as the "divine being" and bureaucratic officials are the priests who administer salvation.

The Communist Party excludes anyone who is not an atheist, because it is the communist party leaders who should be the idols of worship. The hubris is beyond belief. Stalin, Mao, and other commie dictators who resort to the mass murder of their own citizens are to be glorified and held up as examples of omniscient wisdom.

Did you happen to watch the Bannon written and produced documentary I posted a few pages back--called "Generation Zero," I think? I thought it did a good job of summarizing many of the factors that got us where we are today.
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giujohn
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:56 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Here ya go---here's a repost of one of the videos. I'm sure no one will listen to it, but that won't stop them from telling you exactly what Bannon thinks:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nTd2ZAX_tc&t=64s[/youtube]


He's like a god to me, sho nuff.
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 08:57 pm
@giujohn,
Quote:
I heard that NIST is really a covert Government spy agency and that all of their employees carry fully automatic weapons. They have a bunker under the Rockies that goes on for 50 miles! The also have aliens house there. And they can open up the mountain and fly their hypersonic plane right out of it. It goes 9300 mph! They also have hybrid human/aliens working g in there.


That aint no rumor, neither, eh, John? It's stone-cold FACT, I tellya! I know, I've been abducted by aliens many times. It will happen to you, too, if it hasn't already. An ya aint gunna like them probes they haul around with them, I can tellya that.
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giujohn
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2017 09:04 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Just answer the damn question, eh, Cammie?

Which particular shithole that calls itself a "country" in Europe do you monger in, eh?

I wanna send a note to Trump to nuke it first, ya know?


Sooner or later these looney lefties all go off the deep end and we have to send in the white coats.
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