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blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:00 am
Here's our girl Conway lying through her teeth. Again.
Quote:
Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway said Monday morning that she is unconcerned by any potential political repercussions that the Republican Party might suffer in upcoming elections as a result of the legislation to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act currently making its way through the House of Representatives.

Instead, Conway said, she is focused on helping those who she claimed have been hurt by former President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation

“I'm not looking at a political calculation whatsoever now. I'm not thinking about the next election,” Conway said on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “I'm thinking about the millions of Americans who don't have care and don't have coverage and who want it and need it and who were expecting it through
Obamacare.”
Politico
Of course, she is worried about upcoming electoral results as a consequence of Trumpcare. With Paul Ryan and many others openly worrying about a "bloodbath", her statement is transparently false. You could say she's just putting a positive spin on this or you could be more honest and say she's lying about a lack of "political calculation".

As to "the millions who don't have healthcare" being her concern - that's the big lie. If the CBO report is released today, it will almost certainly project many millions now insured will lose their insurance gained under the ACA.

The GOP has NEVER concerned itself with ensuring Americans are protected from illness and all the related suffering (with the laudable exception of Romney in Mass. though to be a viable presidential candidate he then had to renounce his own signal achievement.) This has been a liberal/progressive project from the start and it took a massive effort for this to finally get done under Obama. Financial interests and ideological impediments were what held it back. There's absolutely no reason to think this party has suddenly gained empathy for the suffering. That's not the game they are playing. That is not what they care about.
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blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:08 am
Graph two is the important one here.
Quote:
The White House and Republicans are bracing for bad news in the Congressional Budget Office score of the new GOP health plan, which could come as early as Monday. It is expected to find that the GOP effort — which President Trump has endorsed — could leave many millions without coverage, and on the Sunday shows, top Trump advisers sought to discredit the CBO’s finding in advance.

But all of this should be seen in a much larger context. We’re seeing a broad White House effort to corrode the very ideal of reality-based governing, something that includes not just a discrediting of institutions such as the CBO but also the weakening of the influence of science and data over agency decision-making and the deliberate misuse of our democracy’s institutional processes to prop up Trump’s lies about his popular support and political opponents...
WP
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thack45
 
  3  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:11 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

thack45 wrote:
http://rhrealitycheck.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/false-stamp.png
reality just keeps on being true.

I used to believe that too, but the benevolent one has shown us differently. Alternative facts, for example, make reality their bitch. Don't believe me? Just ask the dear leader's most highly respected counselor
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layman
 
  -1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:15 am
If 50 million commies, world-wide, denounce capitalism with hyperbolic sophistry and venomous invective, then it MUST be wrong, eh?

That's Blathy's game:

Looky here what this commie has to say about Trump!

Now listen to what THIS commie says!

Here's yet another commie who knows the truth!

Ad infinitum, eh?
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blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:21 am
Quote:
Wealthy Would Get billions in Tax Cuts Under Obamacare Repeal Plan

...Two of the biggest tax cuts in Republican proposals to repeal the Affordable Care Act would deliver roughly $157 billion over the coming decade to those with incomes of $1 million or more. … People making $200,000 to $999,999 a year would also get sizable tax cuts. In total, the two provisions would cut taxes by about $274 billion during the coming decade, virtually all of it for people making at least $200,000.
NYT
How unusual for the GOP to write policy that funnels money up to the very wealthy. Three cheers for Trump populism.
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:24 am
Quote:
America is now governed by a president and party that fundamentally don’t accept the idea that there are objective facts. Instead, they want everyone to accept that reality is whatever they say it is … what’s really at stake is whether ignorance is strength, whether the man in the White House is the sole arbiter of truth.
NYT
Democracy, under such a regime, is simply not sustainable.
blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:31 am
Quote:
Tom Price: Republicans will use right-wing hackwork to pretend Trumpcare won’t take insurance away from millions. Critics have rightly noted that Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price lied on Meet the Press Sunday when he predicted “nobody will be worse off financially” under the American Health Care Act. This and other comments from leading Obamacare-repeal architects will haunt them for years if they somehow pass AHCA into law.
But Republicans have been making false promises about health care reform for years. The newsier tipoff from Price was that Republicans are going to promulgate their health care lies with dishonest right wing think tank analysis projecting that AHCA will cover more people than currently have insurance under the ACA.

“I think we’ll have folks that are evaluating this and modeling this come out and say, ‘yes, indeed, this plan will in fact cover more individuals than are currently covered,’” Price told NBC’s Chuck Todd.

This is part and parcel of the GOP’s preemptive effort to discredit the Congressional Budget Office, which is expected to score AHCA as a humanitarian catastrophe. But, to be clear, it is bullshit. Credible analysts, on both the left and the right, project that AHCA will cause millions of people to lose their insurance. The only question is how many millions. Republicans in Congress want to paper over an ongoing and growing public relations fiasco with the health care equivalent of voodoo economics. Consider yourselves warned.
Beutler, New Republic
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oristarA
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:33 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

Quote:
Or, more likely, he thinks that if he can badger and bully enough he'll get a compliant media to serve him. And if that doesn't work, then at least he can continue to convince his base of malformed brains that he's a victim and that they must turn to right wing media to learn the real truth. Unfortunately, that last one seems to be working.


Exactly. It's sheer brilliance, eh?


And will be short lived.

I am confident that most American People will see through Trump's bullshit.

blatham
 
  3  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:39 am
So watch this one.
Quote:
Trump’s decision to fire Bharara ignited speculation that it was designed to blunt investigations like the Fox News probe. In November, Trump had promised Bharara he could remain in the job. But on Friday, he reversed course and requested Bharara’s resignation along with 45 other Obama-appointed U.S. attorneys. (Adding to the intrigue, Trump’s prosecutor purge came less than 24 hours after Sean Hannity said on Fox News that Trump should “purge” the Justice Department of Obama-appointed officials.)

Given that Fox News is Murdoch’s most profitable division, the prospect of indictments is a serious problem. “They’re really worried,” one source close to the network said. Another insider said that Fox News executives considered the investigation “political” because Bharara had been appointed by Barack Obama. Which is why, for Murdoch, it must be a relief that Bharara’s replacement could be an ally. According to the Times, Trump’s short list to replace Bharara includes Marc Mukasey — who just happens to be former Fox News chief Roger Ailes’s personal lawyer.

Considering Mukasey’s close relationship with Ailes, he would surely come under pressure to recuse himself from the Fox News probe if he were appointed by Trump to succeed Bharara. “I have no comment,” Mukasey said when I reached him on Sunday evening and asked if he planned to do so, should he get the job.
NYMag
As we know from events in England where Murdoch's people hacked phones, bribed Scotland Yard and effectively corrupted two successive Brit governments, Murdoch runs what is properly understood as a criminal organization.
layman
 
  0  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:40 am
@blatham,
Quote:
.Two of the biggest tax cuts in Republican proposals to repeal the Affordable Care Act would deliver roughly $157 billion over the coming decade to those with incomes of $1 million or more.


When you're trying to flash big numbers, why in the hell would you stop at a decade?

That would be over 1.5 trillion over the next century, but why stop there?

Over the course of the next millennium that would come to over 15 trillion, almost as much as our current national debt, eh!?

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blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:44 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
I am confident that most American People will see through Trump's bullshit.

Most already have, as we know from the popular vote.

The GOP "base" is now pretty much a lost cause. They have been so effectively propagandized that all the deceits, outright lies and blatant inconsistencies and broken (or soon to be broken) promises will likely not change many minds.

But there is a large and electorally very significant portion of the population who shifted their votes from Obama to Trump (not to mention those who didn't feel motivated to vote this last cycle) and it's those people who the left must reach and inform.
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layman
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:45 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Trump’s decision to fire Bharara ignited speculation that it was designed to blunt investigations like the Fox News probe.

Holy ****! "Speculation," you say? How upsetting! This is SERIOUS!

I've been "speculating" lately about how many dozens of people Obama must have personally murdered, ya know?

Preety-boy was treated just like every other U.S. attorney.

And was treated just exactly how republican attorneys were treated by Obama, Clinton, etc.

blatham
 
  4  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:53 am
A Canadian medical treatment/insurance anecdote.

About three weeks ago, my sister who is an MS sufferer, began feeling some unusual chest pains. She went right to the local hospital and tests revealed she had some serious blockages in her heart. Approximately 24 hours later, she was in surgery for a triple by-pass. Costs to her - $0.
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layman
 
  -1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:55 am
Last week I put on some rubber gloves, then took a bunch of chunks off of a fresh dog turd and rolled them into little round balls.

Then I took a tray of them down to the schoolyard and sold them to the kids at recess for $1 each.

I told them they were "smart pills" which would make them know the answer to every question on every test.

One kid said: "Layman, these pills taste like ****."

I said: "See there, boy, you're getting smart already."

I wonder if Blathy's minions will ever get smart, eh?
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 10:01 am
Cobbler posted this elsewhere, but it is relevant. I saw Conway talking just last September and she looked about ten years younger. Dealing with Agent Orange's horseshit sure is taking its toll.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16865067_974392676025557_1858259633548338934_n.jpg?oh=1dcb4845f0dc8b301fe22d611e9f46c6&oe=5935EB4F
layman
 
  0  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 10:06 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I saw Conway talking just last September and she looked about ten years younger.


Conway is so dedicated to helping the American people that she's working 24/7, without sleep.

Takes a heavy toll, sure, but that's a personal sacrifice that she's more than willing to make.
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layman
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 10:42 am
I got to thinking that maybe Trump isn't such a great negotiator after all.

One of his men paid me $5 to vote for him.

What a chump! I woulda done it for $2 and a Camel cigarette, eh?
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 11:15 am
@hightor,
Quote:
The costs were already rising and the quality was already falling. And lots of people were either uninsured or had "affordable" policies which were sub-optimal.

Wrong again. over 60% of Americans were fine with their coverage and didn't want a change. There were a max of 30 million who had poor or no coverage at all, the ACA did little to increase the coverage to the point it promised. The young and healthy who were suppose to fund the system, didn't by insurance. The premise of the ACA failed, it has only provided insurance to about 12 million people, the rest of the insurance #'s are people on free insurance, which isn't an exchange offering.

Quote:
Right — so instead of working to solve the problems with the ACA (and of course there would be problems with any complex legislation addressing a longstanding social problem) conservatives worked to sabotage the bill and campaign for its total repeal.

Problems created by the ACA is how that should be worded. Instead of massive legislation, it should have been done in pieces. The only purpose of the ACA was to destabilize the insurance market so that the liberals could introduce "single payer" and take control of our healthcare system. It almost worked.
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Baldimo
 
  0  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 11:19 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
It's a weird mind set. We see health care as a right, like education. Making people pay for it sets them against each other. It's not a good thing.

That's the difference between Socialism and Fascism, Socialism tries to mitigate against selfish behaviour by trying to make society more equitable whilst Fascism actually celebrates selfishness and actively exploits it. The only people doing well out of this are the fat cat Wall Street insurers. We cut those people out of the picture, and instead of paying them profits the money goes into health care provision.

Spoken like a true Communist...
Baldimo
 
  1  
Mon 13 Mar, 2017 11:59 am
@blatham,
Quote:
How unusual for the GOP to write policy that funnels money up to the very wealthy. Three cheers for Trump populism.

Funnels money up? Don't you mean keeping more of the money they make? It's funny how you lefties think keeping more of your own money is theft...
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