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layman
 
  -3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 06:23 am
@hightor,
Now, if you're talking about a line of 200 sprinters, all representatives of a different nation, who are running for a bag containing the means to 100,000 new jobs which is hanging from a tree two hundred yards off, then hell, yeah!

I want our man to get there first, and I'm picking the best sprinter we have to represent us (which mean we win, hands down).

America First, Baby!

Likewise, when it comes to negotiating deals with foreign countries, I want our best negotiators on the job.

If it's obvious that one country is getting fucked in a deal, it aint gunna be us, eh?
layman
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 06:43 am
@layman,
Of course the cheese-eater will say that "everyone" has the same right to a good life, so we should give our resources to people in indonesia, and every other country.

Kinda like the cheese-eating animal rights groups who say gazelles have just as much "right" to live as lions, so it is wrong for lions to eat them.

So what is a lion's response to that, as he rips the guts out of some hapless gazelle?

It's "Yeah, right, eh?"

America First, Baby!
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hightor
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 06:48 am
@layman,
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If it's obvious that one country is getting fucked in a deal, it aint gunna be us, eh?

Trouble is, lotsa time nobody know they gettin' screwed until later! You better off takin' yo time an' makin' sho that everyone gonna be happy. You don't need no deal — what you need is negotiated multilateral treaties where all sides win. Otherwise Usain Bolt gonna take gold every time!
layman
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 06:54 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

all sides win.

They aint but one winner in any game. Sure, confused cheese-eaters may think otherwise, but that just proves how little they know, eh?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 07:09 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
"International law" is an oxymoron.

America First, Baby!
So no Geneva Conventions, agreements and treaties with nations, no diplomats etc etc?
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 07:22 am
@georgeob1,
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There is a wealth of historical evidence that says you are dead wrong with respect to each of these countries - one can readily cite wars initiated by Russia for occupation of their territory and very bloody mass exterminations and forced transportations to Siberia to suppress nationalist movemernts in each one of them in just the last century.


You're talking about communism, not Russians, and communism will never come back in Russia.

Other than that, I have to kind of like what Putin said about the Poles, i.e. that in the years between the wars, they had invaded every one of their immediate neighbors other than for Germany, which they apparently could not work up the cajones for...
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 07:35 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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So no Geneva Conventions, agreements and treaties with nations, no diplomats etc etc?


NAO and US governments haven't spent a whole lot of time worrying about Geneva conventions recently. Certainly not SlicKKK KKKlintler for his 80-day illegal bombing campaign against Serbia...
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revelette1
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 07:39 am
@izzythepush,
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Georgebob willingly took part in this. So much for being a nice guy.


Unless he confessed he willingly took part in Vietnam, the US draft was in effect until 1973.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 07:46 am
@izzythepush,
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It's all getting a bit much, the poor bastard wants out. It can't be a lot of fun, day in day out, being made to spout a load of nonsensical horseshit that nobody in their right mind would believe.


He does have it bad during his daily briefings, not only does he have to get up there and make a sows ear look like a silk purse, but he has to do it with a big eye watching him do it.

Quote:
Some days, his briefings have drawn over four million viewers. But he’s tap dancing for one viewer in particular: the fuming, demanding cable-news addict in the Oval Office, who has very specific opinions on what message he wants given to the media and how hard to give it to them.

During the briefings, it helps to imagine Mr. Spicer being watched by a cruel flaming eye just off-camera. Mr. Trump, reportedly, has criticized Mr. Spicer’s suits, his speaking style, his insufficient fire in the belly.

Mr. Spicer doesn’t just have a boss; he has a minder. In the middle of one briefing, David Corn of Mother Jones tweeted, “he was passed long notes: big letters written w/ red Sharpie. Journos speculate they’re from a watching Trump.”


NYT
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hightor
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 08:47 am
@izzythepush,
I disagree with your blanket condemnation of all GIs who happened to have served in that misbegotten conflict. I have no objection to singling out individuals proven to have been involved in specific illegal actions but the compass of US military activity was pretty broad and I don't think "guilt by association" applies here.
thack45
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 10:16 am
http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-389931.gif

So is america great again yet?
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 10:46 am
@nimh,
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In that latter case - when school libraries are pressured by the religious right to remove/refuse certain books for ideological reasons - many liberal critics do (IMHO rightly) often decry it as censorship, though. So that's maybe not the best example.

Just the wrong sort of example. Belatedly realized that myself but didn't bother amending.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 10:49 am
To the extent that reality matters any more...
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19 times Trump called jobs numbers ‘fake’ before they made him look good
Vox
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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 10:53 am
Swamp-draining news from all over.
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A conservative doctor-turned-pundit with deep ties to Wall Street and the pharmaceutical industry is President Donald Trump's pick to lead the Food and Drug Administration.

...Gottlieb is a resident fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute and a partner in the venture capital firm New Enterprise Associates. He has spent more than a decade in Washington rotating between the worlds of government, health policy consulting and political think tanks.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/scott-gottlieb-fda-pick
blatham
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 11:00 am
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Federal judges found more problems in Texas' voting rights laws, ruling that Republicans racially gerrymandered some congressional districts to weaken the growing electoral power of minorities, who former President Barack Obama set out to protect at the ballot box before leaving office.

The ruling late Friday by a three-judge panel in San Antonio gave Democrats hope of new, more favorably drawn maps that could turn over more seats in Congress in 2018. But the judges in their 2-1 decision didn't propose an immediate fix, and Texas could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Republicans hold two of three congressional districts ruled newly invalid and were found to have been partly drawn with discriminatory intent. The GOP-controlled Texas Legislature approved the maps in 2011, the same year then-Gov. Rick Perry signed a voter ID law that ranks among the toughest in the U.S. Courts have since weakened that law, too.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/texas-racial-gerrymander-ruling

This all is, of course, a broad multi-state strategy where the GOP holds power. The intention, as several courts have established, is explicitly discriminatory and the statutes are designed to limit the access to voting of populations likely to vote Democratic. This will be a long term fight and it's a key reason why, if the judiciary loses its independence, America's moves away from democracy will be much accelerated.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 11:05 am
@hightor,
There's a difference between a GI conscript and a pilot who reenlisted over and over again.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 11:15 am
Earlier in the week when some new revelation regarding Michael Flynn's unsavory connections hit the news, Spicer said (paraphrasing) that this just demonstrated Trump's wisdom in firing the guy. What Spicer chose not to point out was the lack of anything like wisdom in Trump's nomination of the guy. And now there's this one...
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A recently retired FBI agent, Brian McCauley, was the fact witness at the center of yet another Clinton email 'scandal' which broke about three weeks before the November 2016 election. This was the 'quid pro quo' story about email classification which broke in mid-October. It turns out that about two weeks before that story came out, McCauley had been placed on retainer by Trump advisor Michael Flynn, a retainer/consultancy agreement which eventually totaled $28,000.

The fees were for research tied to Flynn's foreign agent advocacy on behalf of the Republic of Turkey.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/small-world--4
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blatham
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 11:35 am
@izzythepush,
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There's a difference between a GI conscript and a pilot who reenlisted over and over again.

This is a complex matter. Some people come out of military families and that family culture usually influences how the individual will regard the military or a branch of it and also whether he/she will make the military a career (or a good portion of their life). Other people find some attraction to the life (or the presumed life or the military's recruitment PR of the life) which makes them a very different sort of person than me.

But it is also true that no large group of humans or no nation really ever has much trouble rounding up some significant portion of their population that will leap to militarism. It's obviously not difficult to find people (almost always young men) who love to fight somebody. And it is certainly not difficult to find these sets of behaviors and predispositions across primate species.

Still, I can't indict any particular individual for a military history. My indictments are broader and more general.

The US institution which retains the most popularity or acceptance is the military and that is to a high degree, just nuts. I'd toss such laudatory regard to nurses and teachers long before soldiers. But the US military is one of the most accomplished purveyors of PR and propaganda about themselves and this accounts for a lot of that popularity. A hegemonic nation, that is, a nation which has managed to gain dominance in the world through militarism and the commercial activities that militarism often is in service of, will (and really must) spend a good deal of effort in valorizing soldiers. So that's part of the story too.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 11:47 am
New Republic has a worthwhile piece on Lamar Smith and the GOP's war on science.
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According to The Intercept, “The small group of lawyers and PR strategists orchestrating the secret science effort are closely tied to those attacking the EPA from within. All have connections to either big tobacco, oil, or both.” And those industries would, of course, benefit financially by killing or delaying regulation. “I’m sure you’ve heard of the ‘Delay Game,’ where clearly it’s in the best interests of certain major stakeholders to delay science so they can in effect delay regulations that may have an impact on their business or industry,” said Thomas Burke, who served as the EPA’s chief science advisor under President Obama. “So one has to be a little skeptical of an intent to a bill like this that might lead to an endless loop of reanalysis of data.”

Burke and others said the HONEST Act would delay or stymie the approval of scientific data at EPA because it requires that the disclosure of private data and that study results be “reproducible,” meaning an outside source must be able to replicate the entire study on their own and get the same results. Scientists say that’s just not possible for many public health studies. Consider a 10-year study of lead exposure in pregnant women and children: How would scientists swiftly replicate the results? Or a study on the BP oil spill’s impact on public health in coastal Gulf communities: How can one reproduce that event?
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hightor
 
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Sat 11 Mar, 2017 12:06 pm
@blatham,
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The US institution which retains the most popularity or acceptance is the military and that is to a high degree, just nuts.

I know. Their behavior under fire is one thing. The disrespect shown for their fellow soldiers is something else again.
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