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nimh
 
  5  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 12:13 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
Great question, Gent!

Quote:
“The mere words “socialism” and “communism” draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice-drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex maniac, Quaker, 'Nature cure' quack, pacifist and feminist in England.” (George Orwell, 1937)



And yet Orwell himself was at that point a socialist, having joined Spain's Workers' Party of Marxist Unification.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 12:52 pm
@nimh,
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it." (George Orwell, "Why I write" p. 394)
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camlok
 
  0  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 01:47 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
The compulsion to conform, to be truly in fashion is the key distinguishing feature of such weak-minded people.


You've shown, in a couple of posts, and in virtually every other post, that that describes you perfectly, george.
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 04:20 pm


Ever wonder whether there's such a thing as a women's chain gang??

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/29/article-2166260-13D3C165000005DC-59_964x563.jpg
gungasnake
 
  -1  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 06:27 pm
@gungasnake,
Formerman, think yiou could handle the babe in the right foreground??
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 06:49 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Quote:
lets tell the people of Ukraine , Lithuania, and Finland. Russia was a bear long before it was the Soviet Union.


Many of those people fear the idea of Russians wrecking their culture, i.e. forcing them to bathe, wear clothing, use fire and cook their food and what not....

Basically, Russians have zero interest in owning any of those people, they (Russians) have enough unavoidable problems of their own.

There is a wealth of historical evidence that says you are dead wrong with respect to each of these countries - one can readily cite wars initiated by Russia for occupation of their territory and very bloody mass exterminations and forced transportations to Siberia to suppress nationalist movemernts in each one of them in just the last century.

Perhaps you would like to share your ervidence suggesting all this had recently changed (I think the Ukranians in particular will dispute your claims based on very recent evidence.)
izzythepush
 
  5  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 07:19 pm
What a ******* dick.

Quote:
US President Donald Trump has hailed the federal government's latest positive job figures, which he once denounced as "phony" and a "joke".

The US economy added 235,000 new jobs in February, Mr Trump's first full month in office.

He retweeted a news report with the caption: "GREAT AGAIN".

During a campaign speech last August, Mr Trump called the Department of Labor numbers one of the "biggest hoaxes in American modern politics".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39226688<br />
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 07:20 pm
Georgebob willingly took part in this. So much for being a nice guy.


Quote:
FORTY years after the end of the Vietnam War this is a country which should be rising back to its feet.

Instead it is crippled by the effects of Agent Orange, a chemical sprayed during combat, stripping leaves off trees to remove enemy cover.

Its contaminant, dioxin — now regarded as one of the most toxic chemicals known to man — remains in Vietnam’s ecosystem, in the soil and in the fish people eat from rivers.

Nearly 4.8 million Vietnamese people have been exposed, causing 400,000 deaths; the associated illnesses include cancers, birth defects, skin disorders, auto-immune diseases, liver disorders, psychosocial effects, neurological defects and gastrointestinal diseases.

According to the Red Cross of Vietnam, up to one million people are currently disabled or have health problems due to Agent Orange, 100,000 of which are children.


http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/vietnams-horrific-legacy-the-children-of-agent-orange/news-story/c008ff36ee3e840b005405a55e21a3e1

He is a monster.
camlok
 
  1  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 08:10 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
one can readily cite wars initiated by Russia for occupation of their territory and very bloody mass exterminations and forced transportations to Siberia to suppress nationalist movemernts in each one of them in just the last century.


For every one you cite one can cite two or three where the US has done the same thing. Russia doesn't constantly brag, hasn't been bombarding the world with propagandist lies about what a benevolent, kind generous country it is.

That has been the USA, telling monstrous lies about how great it is, how it is a beacon of freedom, since its genocidal beginnings. And the genocides haven't slowed since then. A country that has been at war for over 90% of its years in existence.

Russia doesn't have over 70 illegal invasions since WWII. The USA does. What Russia did after WWII, gather a cushion of countries around them wasn't right, but they did it for a very good reason - the highly predacious behavior of the USA.

The USA did the same thing with its Monroe Doctrine of 1823 - stay out of the western hemisphere, these countries are ours to rape and pillage, and rape and pillage the USA did.

Then after WWII, the US tried to grab all the SE Asian colonies of devastated European countries.

Here is a man who accurately represent what the USA is, a man who accurately describes the evil that the USA is, a man who was intricately tied up in the war crimes of the USA.

Quote:
Top 10 Kissinger Quotes

1. Soviet Jews: “The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern.” (link)
2. Bombing Cambodia: “[Nixon] wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn't want to hear anything about it. It's an order, to be done. Anything that flies or anything that moves.” (link)

3. Bombing Vietnam: "It's wave after wave of planes. You see, they can't see the B-52 and they dropped a million pounds of bombs ... I bet you we will have had more planes over there in one day than Johnson had in a month ... each plane can carry about 10 times the load of World War II plane could carry." (link)

4. Khmer Rouge: “How many people did (Khmer Rouge Foreign Minister Ieng Sary) kill? Tens of thousands? You should tell the Cambodians (i.e., Khmer Rouge) that we will be friends with them. They are murderous thugs, but we won’t let that stand in the way. We are prepared to improve relations with them. Tell them the latter part, but don’t tell them what I said before.” (Nov. 26, 1975 meeting with Thai foreign minister)

http://www.alternet.org/world/top-10-most-inhuman-henry-kissinger-quotes


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camlok
 
  0  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 09:39 pm
Quote:
2. Bombing Cambodia: “[Nixon] wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn't want to hear anything about it. It's an order, to be done. Anything that flies or anything that moves.” (link)


The quote, "Anything that flies or anything that moves" was actually,

"Anything that flies ON anything that moves.”

and it meant any US flying machine the US can get in the air on anything that moves on the Cambodian cities, towns and villages, wandering civilians in the countryside, anything that MOVES!!!

And Henry dutifully passed these war criminal actions down the US chain of command and what was the result, see the map for yourself, if you have the guts, or the needed honesty to look.

Quote:
Bombs Over Cambodia
New information reveals that Cambodia was bombed far more heavily
during the Vietnam War than previously believed—and that the bombing began not under Richard Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson

...

The still-incomplete database (it has several “dark” periods) reveals that
from October 4, 1965, to August 15, 1973, the United States dropped far
more ordnance on Cambodia than was previously believed: 2,756,941
tons’ worth, dropped in 230,516 sorties on 113,716 sites. Just over 10 percent
of this bombing was indiscriminate, with 3,580 of the sites listed as
having “unknown” targets and another 8,238 sites having no target listed
at all. The database also shows that the bombing began four years earlier
than is widely believed—not under Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson.
The impact of this bombing, the subject of much debate for the past
three decades, is now clearer than ever. Civilian casualties in Cambodia
drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that
had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting
in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a
coup d’état in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately
the Cambodian genocide.

http://gsp.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf


And support PolPot and the Khmer Rouge, the USA did, with aid that was meant for real refugees in Thai refugee camps. Nixon, Kissinger et al diverted it to PolPot and the Khmer Rouge.

See quote 4 in the post before this one where Kissinger shows his affection for PP & the Khmer Rouge.
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camlok
 
  0  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 09:52 pm
A slice of the real America, a slice of A2K in Arizona.

Trump Supporters Call For Imprisoning Liberals at Phoenix Rally

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/trump-supporters-call-liberal-genocide-and-deportation-jews-arizona-rally
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 10 Mar, 2017 11:10 pm
Everybody knew Trump is a pathological liar, right?
Remember his excuse of not releasing his tax return? He said, and everybody heard, that it was being audited.
Well, here's the truth: http://www.greenvillegazette.com/p/irs-chief-trump-is-a-liar-we-audited-him-because-his-taxes-are-highly-suspicious-109270/

Copied from another post: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-21/fact-checking-website-donald-trump-lies-76-percent-of-the-time
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layman
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 04:01 am
A few pages back, the cheese-eaters were guffawing at Carson's (correct) use of the term "immigrant," marveling at how STOOPID Carson was. I wonder if they did the same with Obama, eh?

Quote:
11 Times Barack Obama Compared Slaves To Immigrants

This week, liberals savagely mocked Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson for allegedly comparing slaves to immigrants. It looks like they’ve completely forgotten about all the times Barack Obama did the exact same thing.

In a speech at a naturalization ceremony in 2012, then-President Obama said this about slave ships:

Quote:
We say it so often, we sometimes forget what it means — we are a nation of immigrants....whether they arrived on the Mayflower or on a slave ship, whether they came through Ellis Island or crossed the Rio Grande.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/

Nice try, cheese-eaters.

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izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 04:14 am
It's all getting a bit much, the poor bastard wants out. It can't be a lot of fun, day in day out, being made to spout a load of nonsensical horseshit that nobody in their right mind would believe.

Quote:
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer opened his daily press briefing on Friday with his American flag lapel pin upside down.

Some internet observers noted that an upside-down American flag is traditionally a sign of distress or an act of political protest.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39238141
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 04:18 am
Something bloody stinks.

Quote:
The US state department has instructed New York City's chief medical examiner not to disclose the cause of death of Russia's ambassador to the United Nations.

Vitaly Churkin died suddenly at work in his New York office last month.

The office of the chief medical examiner said that details of his death were being withheld to comply with international law.

Mr Churkin had served as ambassador to the UN since 2006.

The cause of the veteran diplomat's death remains unclear.

"The New York City Law Department has instructed the Office of Chief Medical Examiner to not publicly disclose the cause and manner of death of Ambassador Vitaly Churkin," a spokeswoman for the medical examiner's office, Julie Bolcer, said in a statement.

"Ambassador Churkin's diplomatic immunity survives his death," the statement, which was posted online by New York Times reporter Michael Grynbaum, added.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39237748
layman
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 04:19 am
@camlok,
camlok wrote:

A slice of the real America, a slice of A2K in Arizona.

Trump Supporters Call For Imprisoning Liberals at Phoenix Rally

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/trump-supporters-call-liberal-genocide-and-deportation-jews-arizona-rally


Heh, what a joke. Nothing in the article, or the video it imbeds, says anything about "imprisoning liberals" other than this.

Quote:
"I heard 'Lock her up, lock her up,' and we still need to pursue that," announced Arizona Rep. Anthony Kern; a nod to a prominent Trump campaign promise to imprison then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.


On the video they interviewed a lot of individual Trump supporters. One guy said we need to start imprisoning people "who need to be there."

Well, then again, if you're saying that those"who need to be in prison" would include all liberals, then you have a good point.

Nice try, cheese-eater.


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layman
 
  0  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 05:31 am


This guy raises an interesting question: "Do you believe in America first?"

Well, do ya, cheese-eaters?
layman
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 05:40 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Something bloody stinks.

Quote:
The office of the chief medical examiner said that details of his death were being withheld to comply with international law.


I agree. So-called "international law" bites the big one, eh?

"International law" is an oxymoron.

America First, Baby!
hightor
 
  4  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 05:58 am
@layman,
Quote:
"Do you believe in America first?"

America can wait in line just like everyone else. No cutting ahead.
layman
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Mar, 2017 06:15 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
"Do you believe in America first?"

America can wait in line just like everyone else. No cutting ahead.


What line?

The line of totalitarian governments seeking huge sums of money from the U.N., that it?

America aint in that line, and don't wanna be.
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